Posted On:5/25/2010 6:03am
Originally Posted by madmonkey
The ironic point you are all missing is twofold. One any person taking Muay Thai for a few months training intensely with a good instructor could probably hack it against your standard TKD blackbelt. (so yes a person training for hard for a few months in an art with a good instructor can hold their own if not beat a person who has trained hard for years in a more traditional art learning mainly kata- THE POINT IS THAT IT DEPENDS WHAT YOU HAVE SPENT YEARS TRAINING HARD)
Two Pat Johnson the trainer on karate kid trained both Machio and the cobra kai guys during a summer break. He reckoned that Johnny was better than or equal to several other champions he had trained. (Perhaps this one was hyperbole for the film)
Did you actually see what Daniel-san was doing for those few months, because I thought Mr.Miyagi was the "traditional" Instructor
Posted On:5/25/2010 12:52pm
Style: Muay Thai
Originally Posted by Zraven7
This article was well thought out, and comprehensively written, and makes sense in every way. I do, however, think there is a place and a reason for no-sparring schools, assuming that they are, in fact, theaching properly in other respects. Before the counter-argument assault begins, understannd that I concede that there is no replacement for contact sparring, and that if someone expects to be able to use a technique in a fight, they, quite frankly, need to use it in a fight, at least a simulated one. Still, though, many parents do not understand this concept, and a 14 year old convincing his mother to let him into a no-contact school, as opposed to a sparring one, may be easier. The child can get a decent training base, and find a sparring school later, when they can choose for themselves. Also, some people simply do not have the confidence to begin with sparring, and attending a no-contact schol for a time could be good for them. The point stands that there is no substitute for training against a resistant opponent, and Karate Kids "you painted a fence, now go kick some ass... peacefully" approach to things is still ridiculous". But all no-contact schools are not evil.
The problem with finding a sparring school later is that they'd have to wait until they are eighteen. They are already in a perfectly good school that they wanted to join, and they've already put in so much work in the school that it would seem to their mothers that it'd be a waste to switch schools.
Posted On:6/11/2010 4:20pm
Style: Hung Gar, Choy Lay Fut
Where are they now?
YouTube- John Lawrence: Professional. Winner.
Posted On:6/11/2010 5:07pm
Style: Kyokushin, MMA
Originally Posted by battlefields
Bigstu, do you have any fucking idea what you are on about? Because you clearly don't.
But both movies at this stage show pretty dated training techniques/methodologies, obviously to some extend 'glammed up' for dramatic purposes, no?
Posted On:6/14/2010 2:07am
Style: Short fat wimp style MMA
Will no one point out that it was made obvious through the narrative that the Cobra Kai kids could have basically at any point they wanted totally incapacitate Daniel when that one of them was told to, but said he didn't want to be disqualified? The other kids were doing kip ups and ****, it clear as day that if they deviated from the rules even slightly they'd rape him.
The lesson was just on the perseverance and self confidence thing. Miyagi thought he wouldn't have a chance in the tournament, he just imagined if he showed up and got beat up the other kids would be friendlier towards him.
The crane kick was dumb but nothing matched the magic hand rub technique or Miyagi taking out several fit youngsters much bigger and faster than himself. Take out those points of wizardry and even the crane kick and chop sticks have their place.
Posted On:6/14/2010 3:45am
Style: Judo, BJJ
Arguing about a childrens' movie in this thread.
Posted On:6/14/2010 5:22am
Style: BJJ (blue), Kempo
I actually rented the original "Karate Kid" with a few friends for no other reason than the lols. It was worth the lols. Not much else though.
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