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    Frankly, OP's video made me snort so hard a booger came out.

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    if those videos were proof of wing chuns effectivness im sorry that was bullshit.... Any decent boxer or Judo guy would make there head ring so hard he would reduced to lying in a bed mumbling about chi sao and **** like that all day...

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    I just yeah uhmmm wow........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsfen View Post
    and other than non-WC guys, ive never heard someone say that WC is designed primarily to attack someone untrained...it worked quite well against these guys:
    YouTube- Wing Chun Bing Fa Kung Fu, Si sook Adrian de Boers 1995 Vs Kyokushin Karate
    YouTube- Wing Chun Bing Fa Kung Fu, Sifu Julian de Boers National All Styles 1995 Wing Chun Vs Tae kwon do
    All I'm seeing here is some asshat that breaks the rules multiple times by kicking to groin, and in the case of the kyokushin match also punching to the face. If you have to cheat you're not proving anything.

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    I still think the double leg attempt was crap. Then again this guy is no Mark Schultz, and probably not even close to a high school wrestler. I suck at my doubles too though.

    That aside, this proves nothing. I could say Sambo is better than BJJ and show you a video of a Sambo guys kicking a Jits guy's ass. Still doesn't prove the style is better. I think what I've learned from Bullshido is that after its shown countless times then we can come to the conclusion WC stands its own against other styles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shotfghter View Post
    I still think the double leg attempt was crap. Then again this guy is no Mark Schultz, and probably not even close to a high school wrestler. I suck at my doubles too though.

    That aside, this proves nothing. I could say Sambo is better than BJJ and show you a video of a Sambo guys kicking a Jits guy's ass. Still doesn't prove the style is better. I think what I've learned from Bullshido is that after its shown countless times then we can come to the conclusion WC stands its own against other styles.
    Funny how this isn't what was represented in the OP.

    Is the initial video a step in the right direction? No.

    Getting proper training and then teaching it to your students is a step in the right direction.

    Half assing and poor teaching is wrong no matter what it is in any endeavor.

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    I was referring to this post, Post # 20 No BS MMA and Martial Arts - View Single Post - Finally WC sparring and mixing in with ground game "My style holds up right? If it can beat these styles..." Edit: After re-reading and looking at your notification that I was taking the message wrong I think this (The OP is saying this, NOT wingchunx2z!)

    wingchunx2z: The little BJJ that we do is geared toward returning to our feet, but we also learn what to do if mounted etc, as this does happen often.
    Clarifies your message more Fake. Why the hell would you half ass on the BJJ?

    And an even more interesting questions comes up; If I half ass wing chun as a BJJ practitioner what would I have in the end to show for it? Chain Punches with no or sticky hands/horse stance , or whatever its called will get me killed in the street.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shotfghter View Post
    I was referring to this post, Post # 20 No BS MMA and Martial Arts - View Single Post - Finally WC sparring and mixing in with ground game "My style holds up right? If it can beat these styles..."
    Yes, as I said mantra. You are falling for the typical chun derail.

    You either get the lowest common denominator Bullshit lie defense:
    wing chun typically teaches for the average person. The average person doenst like getting hit and will often fold up if they get hit 5 times in row in a chain barrage.
    Or the look we can beat people too defense:
    ive never heard someone say that WC is designed primarily to attack someone untrained...it worked quite well against these guys

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just Guess View Post
    All I'm seeing here is some asshat that breaks the rules multiple times by kicking to groin, and in the case of the kyokushin match also punching to the face. If you have to cheat you're not proving anything.
    If you have to make rules to cover up your own weaknesses your not proving anything either. If those guys knew how to protect their groin or face or throats or eyes, they would have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsfen View Post
    If you have to make rules to cover up your own weaknesses your not proving anything either. If those guys knew how to protect their groin or face or throats or eyes, they would have.
    Then why did you post competition videos as proof?

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