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    - RASHAD & RAMPAGE: HAVE THEY CROSSED THE LINE?
    Thursday, May 20, 2010 - by Damon Martin - MMAWeekly.com

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    There is obviously no love lost between Rashad Evans and Quinton "Rampage" Jackson as the two former "Ultimate Fighter" coaches are on a collision course to UFC 114 where they will settle a longstanding grudge.

    Evans and Jackson on Tuesday during a media conference call went after one another again, as they did several times during the reality show, but this time the path took a turn towards a controversial subject on the verge of hate speech.

    A reporter asked Jackson a question about his time off while filming the movie "The A-Team" and asked him if the break from fighting was a detriment or if the time off was advantageous to his development as a fighter. Rampage responded, "First of all, why you always using the big words like that."

    Evans took offense to the joke and said that Jackson was perpetuating a stereotype, and he needed to stop acting that way when he was much smarter than that.

    "It's just cause he says ignorant stuff, and he just perpetuates stupidness," said Evans. "íOh don't use those big words, I don't know what that is.' Mother (expletive) you're not stupid, stop acting like you're stupid. Stop acting like just because you black, you stupid. I can't stand that attitude."

    Taking it one step further, Evans claimed that Jackson is well aware of the persona he emits, but he's much smarter than that and doesn't need to do that.

    "He does this little sambo thing. He acts like, 'oh black on black crime, oh I'm stupid, you can't use big words like that.' Like you don't know what the (expletive) going on. I talked to this dude; this dude is pretty smart. He knows what's going on, but he just do this, 'oh it's comedy.' Why perpetuate the stereotype that you're stupid? You ain't stupid.

    "Why perpetuate the stereotype that you canít think? You know what Iím saying? You canít Ė you donít understand big words, you canít read. All of that stupid stuff, man."

    The scene turned more ugly from there as Jackson then turned to homosexual taunts to lash back at Evans.

    "Why you act all cocky and act all fake and be playing with your nipples and look all gay, so why do you that? Why you go that way? Why do you portray the stereotype of a black gay man if you donít want to go anywhere, play with your nipples, and act all gay and want to wear them tight shorts? Why do you do that stuff?" barked Jackson.

    "Because you gay. You play with your nipples and thatís why you and Queen Mo playing with each other. He got nipple rings and you play with your nipples."

    More taunts and accusations were thrown back and forth between Evans and Jackson before the call ended, and things obviously got extremely personal.

    So when is it all too much?

    When does trash talk in the sports world become political talk become social commentary become hate speech? Were Evans and Jackson over the line with the way they went after each other in a public forum or does a line even exist in a country that touts its First Amendment rights to free speech?


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    Evans is right, Jackson plays up a stereotype knowing full-well what he is doing. Why do you think suburban white kids and ignorant adults like him so much? He isn't actually funny except as a stereotype.

    Sapp did the same thing, the Japenese love it.
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    I always thought that Jackson was funny as a sly joke. He always lets moments of brilliance very subtly leak into his act.

    Also, as a long time boxing fan I can say that this is still pretty tame. I don't want MMA media events to become like boxing, on account of I often have to be there asking questions. But, it's hard to say they've gone too far while a (arguably) more widely watched sport has a constant stream of fights breaking out at press conferences.
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    I'm not sure there are many lines left ... just a few that are hanging around in my head from the old days...
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    I can't say I ever thought Rampage was the least bit funny. Tired, old routine, imo.
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    part of the reason i always thought he was funny is because its fairly obvious he IS smarter than the stereotype he portrays. its sad that apparently a lot of people are too thick to understand this.

    personally i cling to jacksons nuts like a nasty crab and i hope he beats the **** out of Rashad "lay n pray" Evans.
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    Rampage doesn't know Sambo. i thoughy he had wrestling background.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UpaLumpa View Post
    Evans is right, Jackson plays up a stereotype knowing full-well what he is doing. Why do you think suburban white kids and ignorant adults like him so much? He isn't actually funny except as a stereotype.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex View Post
    part of the reason i always thought he was funny is because its fairly obvious he IS smarter than the stereotype he portrays. its sad that apparently a lot of people are too thick to understand this.
    He most likely is indeed smarter than the stereotype he portrays. That makes it worse in my view.

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