Official Muaythai, Karate and SanDa Throwing, Sweeping and Tripping Thread

**Matt Phillips** · Posted On: 5/17/2010 6:11pm

@Spat If you don't have a name for a throw, you can't look up the mechanics or ask a question. Khun Kao may be able to break down a throw for you, if you can only tell him which one it is.

I am NOT asking this question in AdGrap. This forum is for MT and related kickboxing, right? Throwing, sweeping and tripping are part of the striking game.

Kat throws like a ************ BTW ;)

OK, on the assumption that Urquidez's throw is Harai Goshi, can someone break down how the throw is done so we can talk about how it might be used from the Prumb in MMA?

**Matt Phillips** · Posted On: 5/17/2010 6:18pm

Originally Posted by Mtripp

Benny trained with Gene quite a bit, I suspect its a Harai Goshi.

Gene told me Benny is joining Hayastan as their striking coach.

**Torakaka** · Posted On: 5/17/2010 6:21pm

Hey I have no problem with a thread about throws, I actually posted a thread about a video that teaches throws, I think throws are a wonderful part of a strikers game. I'm simply saying that I'd much rather this thread be a more technical based discussion about how to do/implement throws, the strategy of throws as part of the clinch game, etc. and not just a "name that throw in japanese" thread.

**Conde Koma** · Posted On: 5/17/2010 6:58pm

Originally Posted by War Wheel

OK, on the assumption that Urquidez's throw is Harai Goshi, can someone break down how the throw is done so we can talk about how it might be used from the Prumb in MMA?

The Prumb is the double collar tie, right? It might be tough to throw from that position, but the mechanic of the throw is to load them up on your hip and use your leg to guide their legs over. I prefer doing it from an underhook on the near-side, but I suppose it's possible to do it from a double collar.

**Matt Phillips** · Posted On: 5/17/2010 7:14pm

You're right, I guess they were in more of an over/under

**Jim_Jude** · Posted On: 5/17/2010 8:59pm

Originally Posted by Conde Koma

It looks like Benny used an Uchimata, or some kind of hip throw.

Yeah, it looked like Uchi Makikomi, except he grabbed onto the arm with both hands & tucked his chin into it. I'm sure that guy's arms were pretty slippery at that point.
That & he got aerial right before the Thai boxer hit the ground, just to make it worse. Yeah, that was a hurtin' throw.

***WhiteShark*** · Posted On: 5/17/2010 9:39pm

That throw Benny did is totally illegal in Muay Thai btw. So doing it from a double collar tie is pretty unlikely.

On a side note I used my thai clinch in BJJ all the time to stuff peoples heads in to my guillotine. They all know I have Muay Thai experience so they laugh and say "you can't knee me. lol" right until I slap the guillotine on. You use the pressure on the thai clinch like a can opener then when you break their posture switch your top hand into a guillotine position and use the other hand to stuff the head.

**Matt Phillips** · Posted On: 5/17/2010 11:46pm

Originally Posted by WhiteShark

That throw Benny did is totally illegal in Muay Thai btw. So doing it from a double collar tie is pretty unlikely.

Japanese Kickboxing rules. I don't believe it was illegal.

FTR throws like this were not always illegal in MT. The rule was added because of this exact situation with Farang, specifically Japanese fighters.