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  1. sambosteve is offline
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    What would you do? Observing spouse abuse...

    Not sure if this is the correct forum for this discussion, but...

    These are very interesting videos. As one who has stepped in when witnessing public abuse, these videos interested me. I know it can be risky, but I felt I had to do it the few occasions I have. What do you think? These controlled situations pointed out so many factors including race, dress, environment, fear, etc. Take a look and see what you think.

    Don't think I can embed the videos, but you can watch both parts here. The second was pretty disturbing to me.

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    This is bullshit. If they did the same exact scenario they'd have a point. They change the discussion, they changed the atmosphere, they change the tone and then try to draw the same conclusion.

    Sorry, the second video is crappy.

    I understand what they are trying to get across but, I don't like how they set it up. The only thing that gives me pause are the bruises on the second lady. The first lady's bruises are hidden by her hair and sweater at first.

    I think it has less to do with the dress and more to do with the discussion.

    I've stopped a few situations like this but, that is me.
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    Gaaah. That's a really tricky one. I live in a condo and some people abuse their partners in public. Public, meaning EVEN IN THE GODDAMN ELEVATOR. I've felt the overwhelming to throw them to the floor sometimes. What's the tipping point, though?

    in the second part I can't believe everyone just looked
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    I can, I've seen some shitty things. You'd be surprised what people ignore or justify.
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    I remember there was a good story in Eugene S. Robinson's Fight book about someone who diffused a public spousal abuse situation by threatening to call the police.
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    Agreed, it was not a controlled experiment, but the behavior of the observers in the second vid disturbed me...regardless of any formal sociological conclusions.
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    Agreed, it was not a controlled experiment, but the behavior of the observers in the second vid disturbed me...regardless of any formal sociological conclusions.
    Really?

    I guess the fact that this phenomena has been occurring since the 60's their reactions didn't disturb me at all. It was expected. I was actually impressed by the reactions in the first video.

    I was actually surprised that the last guy actually became uncomfortable and that the other woman was upset at herself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by It is Fake View Post
    Really?

    I guess the fact that this phenomena has been occurring since the 60's their reactions didn't disturb me at all. It was expected. I was actually impressed by the reactions in the first video.

    I was actually surprised that the last guy actually became uncomfortable and that the other woman was upset at herself.
    I did not say I was suprised. Just disturbed. Yeah, the first video people stepped up...that actually suprised me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sambosteve View Post
    I did not say I was suprised.
    Okay? I didn't say you were.
    Just disturbed.
    I'm surprised you are disturbed. Those reactions are what I expect of most people and am pleasantly surprised when things go different.
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    IIF And you don't find it disturbing that total apathy towards a situation like that is the behavior you expect to see?
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