Feudal era Japanese, not just Samurai, were armed more or less 24/7. At least daggers. The only real exception was the imperial palace. Extensive guard play and weapons don't mix.
Originally Posted by Yoj
It's true that unarmed techniques are not very important in many older koryu styles for the very reason that any opponent would more than likely be armed. However I don't think it is fair to compare battlefield/dueling style focused martial arts and tactics with techniques that work great on an unarmed opponent (the guard)- the situation is different.
Pure jujutsu ryu-ha came about fairly late in the Edo period BECAUSE martial arts were no longer needed for the battlefield, and instead you needed techniques for urban/self defense situations.
I studied Daito Ryu years ago, under the instruction of Quentin Ball Sensei, student of Okabayashi Sensei in Gloucester, UK. I can tell you now that Daito Ryu IS Koryu. If you want further proof, here is the history of the style from the Daito Ryu Aikijujutsu Japan Headquarters:
Oh, and this was where I trained for those who are interested:
That video sucked balls for the record.
Originally Posted by David Koresh Jr.
Last edited by EricK; 9/23/2010 1:53am at .
Having visited a few different Ju Jitsu classes this year there is a huge difference between them, one thing it apparent though which is that Ju Jitsu has been in the UK for such a long period of time that there is no connection at all with Japan now, contrasted to say Judo or kyokushin karate.
Why that means anything is that there is no central point of reference, so people just mix and match what they have learnt.
The best Ju Jitsu place I have been to firmly falls into Anglo-Ju Jitsu camp and has changed itself as they incorporate BJJ (even though they dont readily admit it, but a lot of the instructers are blue belt or above in addition to JJ) and MMA type training techniques. It was also the only one that commonly spars (grappling and stand up).
I'm sorry, but that's rubbish. We were visited fairly regularly by Okabayashi Shogen Sensei...and he's very much Japanese, and a well known authentic Daito Ryu exponent. I would say that it's more accurate to say that there is no real united front in Jujutsu in the UK, rather than it being mix and match or unrelated to what is taught in Japan.
Originally Posted by ty5