arm bars

**infidel** · Posted On: 2/19/2004 2:06pm

some people's elbows beyond 180 degrees naturally(or unnaturally in my opinion). if your trying to armbar somebody whose arm is like this is there anything you can do to bring the pain? or just give up and look for something else?

**drunkenj** · Posted On: 2/19/2004 2:26pm

pull it over your hip at a slight angle, so as to allow you to bend the arm as far as it takes

**milwaukee cop** · Posted On: 2/19/2004 2:53pm

also squeeze your knees 2gether to take out the "play" when doing a lateral armlock

**Ronin** · Posted On: 2/19/2004 2:59pm

Rip the arm off its socket.

***Omega Supreme*** · Posted On: 2/19/2004 3:36pm

I can get an arm to bend up to about 230 degrees. If you can bend it further that that I'm grabbing my gun because your a mutant.

**deus ex machina** · Posted On: 2/19/2004 3:52pm

I think omega is saying that he can crank a hypothetical arm up to 230 degrees.

**infidel** · Posted On: 2/19/2004 9:23pm

i guess i just suck at arm bars then. which makes sense cause i just started. but for the sake of argument, this guy can also bend his fingers back to his arm and other weird ****. beyond normal flexibility. i'm pretty sure i did the armbar the same way i did it in class.

**Owen** · Posted On: 2/19/2004 10:24pm

I tried to keylock a guy one time and it just couldn't be done. He later told me both his rotator cuffs were so screwed up he had an absurd range of motion in both. Put it this way-I had a triangle choke in the mount and then proceeded to grab the key lock and torque it by laying down on him. It didn't work, but when he reversed the triangle sank tight, I was mad that day and being a little meaner than I should have been. Some people just have crazy flexibility.

**Crapfestival** · Posted On: 2/20/2004 6:34am

"i guess i just suck at arm bars then. which makes sense cause i just started. "

Knees TOGETHER! Thats what your problem is, also get way up on the arm as high as you can to the shoulder. Keep your knees PRESSED the entire time, thats why people have a tough time with people arms bending so much, they arent tight enough and dont isolate the elbow, they allow the shoulder to relieve pressure.

"Put it this way-I had a triangle choke in the mount and then proceeded to grab the key lock and torque it by laying down on him."

Well there is your problem right there. When you do the keylock, you want their elbow to be as close to their waist as possible, so get the pressure on the shoulder. If the elbow is up high near their head or shoulder... it doesnt work.

There is a way to make the keylock work from inside the triangle, but its an uncommon move and Im sure you werent doing it. .