Hay guiz! Jim Wagner + TKD = SAUCESOME!

**sunsetsamurai** · Posted On: 5/05/2010 3:12pm

this is alex haddox's bio http://alexhaddox.com/ahbio.shtml

**thaclient** · Posted On: 5/05/2010 3:21pm

Originally Posted by sunsetsamurai

this is alex haddox's bio http://alexhaddox.com/ahbio.shtml

I didn't see his rankings in any MA posted there. Are they posted somewhere else? Is he teaching BJJ/GJJ or has he just merely studied it in the past?

**sunsetsamurai** · Posted On: 5/05/2010 3:27pm

I think he just started training in BJJ, I know hes not teaching BJJ, the ground fighting seminars are not about submissions and all that just basic escapes and how to get out of a mount/ side mount etc... etc...

**Styygens** · Posted On: 5/05/2010 3:29pm

Originally Posted by sunsetsamurai

this is alex haddox's bio http://alexhaddox.com/ahbio.shtml

Yes, I read that.

See:

It did not answer all my questions. I was wondering if you could address any of them. If not, perhaps you could find out. Anyone should be proud to hold instructor rank in BJJ and be willing to tell you the details of rank and who awarded it.

I suggest sticking with Judo.

**sunsetsamurai** · Posted On: 5/05/2010 4:01pm

Originally Posted by Styygens

I suggest sticking with Judo.

I will. thanks:icon_thum

**Lindz** · Posted On: 5/05/2010 6:27pm

Originally Posted by sunsetsamurai

Dont they only allow karateka? cuz if they let my TKD ass join I would love to get in the mix with some karatekas!!:bully:

I dunno ask them. I did go to a kyokushin tournament once and I remember over hearing that one of the guys competing in the blackbelt div was actually a shotokan bb. As long as you don't punch people in the head they might let you play.

**sunsetsamurai** · Posted On: 5/05/2010 6:59pm

Originally Posted by Lindz

I dunno ask them. I did go to a kyokushin tournament once and I remember over hearing that one of the guys competing in the blackbelt div was actually a shotokan bb. As long as you don't punch people in the head they might let you play.

thats funny cuz my TKD style CHANG MOO KWAN comes from Shotokan, and chuan-fa
Kwon Bop Bu/Chang Moo Kwan - founded in 1946 by Byung In YOON, who had studied Chinese Kung Fu (ch'uan-fa) in Manchuria and Shudokan karate with Kanken Toyama in Japan, and later called his art Kwon Bop Kong Soo Do. Yoon went missing during the Korean War. His teachings were carried on by his top student Nam Suk LEE, who changed the name of the school to Chang Moo Kwan.
http://www.completemartialarts.com/i.../taekwondo.htm

http://www.watertigertkd.com/ChangMooKwan.html

***DerAuslander*** · Posted On: 5/05/2010 7:52pm

How is that funny?

**sunsetsamurai** · Posted On: 5/05/2010 10:54pm

Originally Posted by DerAuslander108

How is that funny?

funny cuz my teacher had us all rooting for Machida last year, and he brought it up this year again, "we need to support him, because we come from Shotokan Karate" my teacher LOVES that fact...:karated:

**Styygens** · Posted On: 5/06/2010 11:42am

I just want to keep this straight.

You are taking classes in RBSD, TKD, and Judo from three different schools. Not all from Haddox.

How often do you train per week?

Now that I've had a chance to catch up on the other posts, I think I understand Haddox's background a little better, but I'm still curious about his BJJ rank and teacher. I'd also like to hear more about his training time and certification under Jim Wagner.

My understanding is that if you pay the fee, you can be certified as an RBSD instructor under Wagner in as little as a 3-Day weekend. I don't know if there is any follow-on training required. If you have information about the types of training and certifications under Wagner, that probably would be of general interest to Bullshido.

Upfront: Wagner's reputation on Bullshido isn't very high. With a little search fu, you can read more about him. However, it's not so much that he doesn't have the background he claims as it is that he Exaggerates with a capital E. There are others with far more impressive backgrounds teaching the same "reality-based" philosophy.

For example, Kelly McCann and his Crucible method seems to come highly recommended. He may be the only one teaching where student verfication really is an issue as all signs point towards a majority of his students working in sensitive positions. This is a well-worn cliche with many of the other reality teachers, but it appears to be true in his case. McCann also has at least one thread you can practice your search fu on.