Posted On:1/17/2007 10:33pm
Apparently there is a hidden meaning to the TKD patterns.
What I love is that for the most part it seems to be an attempt to apply currently 'hot' topics in MAs to patterns without taking into consideration the fact that the techniques shown aren't taught in TKD. I mean I could random pick things out of TKD and say they were originally intended for kicking men off horses or fighting bulls!
The best part is that some slap nut TKD instructor with a few bucks and maybe a weekend seminar in Thai-Jitsu will be claiming to teach 'the deadly grappling'. After all if he's already been doing the patterns for 15 years he must actually know the technique.
PS - Thai-Jitsu just randomly selected off the top of my head.
PPS - Just incase you wanted to make your head pound and your eyes bleed.....
Last edited by TKD Black Belt; 1/17/2007 10:38pm at .
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Posted On:1/17/2007 10:46pm
Style: Student Jutsu
If you're talking about the Anslow book then he's the founder of IAOMAS and regularly posts on their forum if you wanted to debate it with him.
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Posted On:1/18/2007 12:18am
I'm grindin' 'till I'm tired...
Posted On:1/18/2007 12:44am
Style: Judo. Some BJJ/Kickboxing
The ratio of hand to kick techniques in TKD may be "8 to 1"... but the ratio of techniques EVER FUCKING USED by TKD fighters is more to the tune of 0 to infinite value.
"[Fighting for Points] is doubtless very pretty, and invariably draws applause, but preferences should always be given to blows that do some business, to good straight hits that do something toward finishing the fight.
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Posted On:1/18/2007 2:57am
Actually...TKD Black Belt...you and Anslow would probably get along pretty well.
And as for his book, it's pretty well researched.
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Posted On:1/18/2007 4:38am
Style: Muay Thai (BJJ hiatus)
Everything I've ever read about Stuart Anslow suggests he's a very competent Martial Artist. I *believe* he's been cross training in grappling for some time also.
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Posted On:1/18/2007 6:19am
Originally Posted by TKD Black Belt
Although I think the process needs some refining, the IAOMAS organisation that he founded (International Alliance of Martial Arts Schools) allows for a great deal of cross training. Here he and Bullshido tend to agree. Unfortunately his organisation appears to be stuck with that "Respect all martial artists and their styles" rubbish that could leave the organisation open to abuse.
I haven't read the book, TKD Patterns just don't do it for me, but as far as I'm aware he's always been open about what he trains in and what he knows. I'm sure he'd actually answer any questions you have either here or on the IAOMAS forums.
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Posted On:1/18/2007 7:26am
Style: TKD, BJJ
Taekwon-do is often cited as being mainly a kicking art, but in actual fact is has many more hand techniques than kicks, at a guess I would say the hand techniques out number the leg techniques by around 8 to 1 (I once read there are over 2000 hand techniques, but I've never actually counted them to verify this).
axe (thanks babo78)
all of the above kicks are also taught in a "jumping mode" and a "spinning" mode (except axe)
for example. jump(flying) side kick. Or spinning hook kick. or even jump spinning hook kick. The variations are endless, and are actively taught.
You can add jump, spinning, or both to almost any kick in TKD.
*note* jab and cross are two variations of a straight punch.
Variation- spinning pack fist
about 8 in all, hand techniques
I am not sure where he comes up with his thoughts on there being more punches than kicks. Can anyone quote the book for me?
Last edited by HonkyTonkMan; 1/18/2007 8:10am at .
Posted On:1/18/2007 8:00am
Style: Yudo, Karate
Originally Posted by oldman34
Axe kick? Would that count?
Posted On:1/18/2007 8:09am
Originally Posted by babo78
Axe kick? Would that count?
I had forgotten that one. Yes...Axe kick. Thank you.
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