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  1. It is Fake is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by TEA View Post
    1. I had always thought that "anti-grapple" was a term made up on Bullshido to mock TMA arts that don't address grappling in their curriculum based on the faulty assumption that will power alone will keep one standing when the other guy wants to take the fight to the ground.
    Oh come on now, you are being Facetious. You've been in the _ing _un threads where we have posted videos titled "anti-grapple" from all over the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by It is Fake View Post
    Oh come on now, you are being Facetious. You've been in the _ing _un threads where we have posted videos titled "anti-grapple" from all over the world.
    Actually, no, this is the first video I've seen where they actually use the term "anti-grapple." I've read all the arguments in WC threads in which WC practitioners claim that they don't need to learn grappling because WC is a stand-up art and teaches one how not to get taken down, but I have never actually read someone use the term "anti-grapple" except ironically as a critique of such claims.
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    Originally Posted by chuey
    ...Well **** if that isn't the most anti-Mr. Miyagi **** I have heard in ages.

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    If grapple and anti-grapple meet and converge, isn't their a cataclysmic explosion?
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    Quote Originally Posted by crappler View Post
    If grapple and anti-grapple meet and converge, isn't their a cataclysmic explosion?
    yes, its called a wrestling match
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    Wouldn't it just be better to sprawl, drop all your weight down on his upper back so he cant get back up, then go for a front head lock and just crank it? Or go for a 3/4 nelson and flip him over and get side control?
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    Quote Originally Posted by shotfghter View Post
    Wouldn't it just be better to sprawl, drop all your weight down on his upper back so he cant get back up, then go for a front head lock and just crank it? Or go for a 3/4 nelson and flip him over and get side control?
    Yes. Yes it would.

    Except cranking the neck because that's a dick move.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jnp View Post
    Yes. Yes it would.

    Except cranking the neck because that's a dick move.
    Well...it seems I have to ask it again...why are you such a girlie man?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jnp View Post
    Yes. Yes it would.

    Except cranking the neck because that's a dick move.
    But on teh d34dly str33ts dick moves are what are favored by teh d34dly str33t fighter.

    Would substituting "guillotine choke" or "anaconda" for "crank on the neck" satisfy your sense of fair play and chivalry? Of course, if you were Zap, you'd just go for the heel hook straight away and forget all about his neck - that or something more exotic: http://www.youtube.com/user/Pendraeg#p/u/25/VNYZQ-xsBUs

    Would "pantsless jitsu" count as teh anti-grapple, since even Hedgehogey seems to want to avoid going to the ground with someone under such circumsances?

    http://www.youtube.com/user/Pendraeg#p/u/30/Egts2c-fKow
    Last edited by TEA; 5/02/2010 12:55pm at .
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    Originally Posted by chuey
    ...Well **** if that isn't the most anti-Mr. Miyagi **** I have heard in ages.

    Two wrongs don't make a right, but
    Three rights make a left.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odacon View Post
    More like panty grapple.
    I think you meant panty garble .
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    I will have to say that basic hand fighting for grips be it in the gi or nogi is not recognized as a valuable skill set by most grappling practitioners. While I am not advocating that silly forearm on forearm circle **** I will say that more people need to understand grip fighting better if they wish to develop better grappling techniques.

    Pushing on the head and shoulders can deter a take down and couple that with lateral motion and good footwork is an effective means of stopping a take down. Given the context of self defense or protecting yourself in a real environment he has some decent points.

    The pushing on the stiff arm is not the best advice since I deal in action reaction not meeting force with force.
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