There's nothing new under the Sun

**Res Judicata** · Posted On: 4/26/2010 4:29pm

Reading one of the old Judo books on judoinfo.com, I recently burst out laughing. The book was Modern Judo vol. 2 by Charles Yerkow, 3d Ed. (c) 1947. Available here: http://judoinfo.com/new/alphabetical...364-judo-books

The book itself is quite interesting -- Judo stick fighting!

I've attached a couple of pages. There really is nothing new under the Sun.

[By "kidney-scissor jump" he means what we'd call "jump guard". Daki-age ftw.]

**Mtripp** · Posted On: 4/26/2010 4:54pm

In point of fact, cane fighting was a big part of Judo in the old days.

A yawara stick was called a "Judo stick" for many years because of how many schools taught it in their training.

The more these old text's come to light, the more interesting it will get....

**Permalost** · Posted On: 4/26/2010 6:15pm

While most techniques and training methods have been done before, I feel that statements like "there's nothing new under the sun" can be counterproductive to having your art evolve.

**HereBeADragon** · Posted On: 4/26/2010 10:58pm

If nothing else thanks for posting that link. I am always on the lookout for places where I can download old martial arts manuals.

**Ninnong** · Posted On: 4/26/2010 11:01pm

You gotta be careful. Old people don't use canes just for walking anymore.
The Enemy Within - Cane Fu | June 22, 2009 | ColbertNation.com

**Hesperus** · Posted On: 4/27/2010 2:35am

Daki-age is a real man's guard pass.

**Nicko1** · Posted On: 4/27/2010 4:59am

Downloaded this. The argument begun on the second page you posted seems familiar somehow...Thread title correct.

Edit: Nice (and by nice I mean annoying) to see that Judoinfo gets the same shitty "no touch KO" ads as here.

**pauli** · Posted On: 4/27/2010 7:33am

Originally Posted by CodosDePiedra

While most techniques and training methods have been done before, I feel that statements like "there's nothing new under the sun" can be counterproductive to having your art evolve.

i agree with this greatly.

**mrblackmagic** · Posted On: 4/27/2010 9:57am

Originally Posted by CodosDePiedra

While most techniques and training methods have been done before, I feel that statements like "there's nothing new under the sun" can be counterproductive to having your art evolve.

Thank you "flying" variations.

**Res Judicata** · Posted On: 4/27/2010 9:59am

Naturally, there's refinement and new looks at old moves in any art. It's one of the nice parts about competition-driven evolution. There rarely are any new moves, just tweaks and refinements. But some of this is rules-driven. For example, jumping closed guard is a viable competition strategy in BJJ because the rules effectively encourage it by barring slamming -- and techniques evolve around that ruleset.