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  1. Cy Q. Faunce is offline
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    A Tom Cicero got his brown from Ralph Gracie and may have gotten a black belt from a Marco Nasciemento, or may not have done:

    http://www.graciefighter.com/?page=f...4&add_view=set


    (That thread is a goddamned disgrace, and the majority of the excuse-making participants need a boot in the teeth. But that is by the way.)

    Nasciemento teaches here:

    http://pitbulljiujitsu.pbworks.com/

    So I'll start with him. If he never gave Cicero a black belt in BJJ, Cicero can't grant them, unless he got one elsewhere of course. If he did, that will be my next stop.
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  2. Cy Q. Faunce is offline
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    Team Beast claims that Cicero has returned to Brazil, which would account for my difficulty in finding him:

    http://www.naming-schemes.org/~chard...ambeast-2.html

    I have asked them for Cicero's lineage.
  3. Dak is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by It is Fake View Post
    Grapplers Challenge #1.

    http://www.grapplerschallenge.com/

    I can't find results online so, someone may want to email them. No, I have some major papers due otherwise, I'd do it myself.
    awesome! the place i do jiu jitsu at during the summer did well :D

    /shameless plug

    boisejiujitsu.com
  4. GirlJock is offline

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    His claim to be sponsored by Datsusara is true. Sorry, the signature is in black and I can't change the font color. If you highlight it, you can see it.

    Elle,

    Yep, we do sponsor him, he's a nice guy too. Let me know if you need to know anything else.




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    "Naturally Superior Gear"




  5. Uncle Skippy is offline

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    Chuck,

    There is a "Tom Cissero" who received a brown under Ralph Gracie and then a black under Nasciemento.

    List of Nasciemento's Black Belt Students which includes Tom:
    http://pitbulljiujitsu.pbworks.com/BLACK-BELTS

    Tom's School Site:
    http://www.cbjj.net/
  6. pauli is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by GirlJock View Post
    His claim to be sponsored by Datsusara is true. Sorry, the signature is in black and I can't change the font color. If you highlight it, you can see it.

    Elle,

    Yep, we do sponsor him, he's a nice guy too. Let me know if you need to know anything else.



    Best Regards,


    Chris Odell
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    Office: 510.984.2332
    Mobile: 510.508.0129 (urgent calls only please)


    "Naturally Superior Gear"
    or you could strip out the color codes and have it display fine.
  7. Cy Q. Faunce is offline
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    This guy, you mean?

    http://cissero.roxer.com/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cy Q. Faunce View Post
    This guy, you mean?

    http://cissero.roxer.com/
    Cy,

    They are both the same place (same phone numbers). My guess is they had that site before cbjj.net
  9. Uncle Skippy is offline

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    I just contacted Tom Cissero himself using the phone number on his web site.

    The exact words out of his mouth were:

    "I never even heard of that guy"

    Tom was very cordial with me and explained in no uncertain terms that Matt Barvo has never trained with him. I explained that I would make it very clear that he is not associated with Matt (he said "Very good. I don't know him."), thanked him for his time and we hung up.
  10. Cy Q. Faunce is offline
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    OK. I'm not sure if this is the guy Barvo is claiming rank from, but if it is, that's a problem.
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