A Tom Cicero got his brown from Ralph Gracie and may have gotten a black belt from a Marco Nasciemento, or may not have done:
(That thread is a goddamned disgrace, and the majority of the excuse-making participants need a boot in the teeth. But that is by the way.)
Nasciemento teaches here:
So I'll start with him. If he never gave Cicero a black belt in BJJ, Cicero can't grant them, unless he got one elsewhere of course. If he did, that will be my next stop.
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Team Beast claims that Cicero has returned to Brazil, which would account for my difficulty in finding him:
I have asked them for Cicero's lineage.
awesome! the place i do jiu jitsu at during the summer did well :D
Originally Posted by It is Fake
His claim to be sponsored by Datsusara is true. Sorry, the signature is in black and I can't change the font color. If you highlight it, you can see it.
Yep, we do sponsor him, he's a nice guy too. Let me know if you need to know anything else.
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There is a "Tom Cissero" who received a brown under Ralph Gracie and then a black under Nasciemento.
List of Nasciemento's Black Belt Students which includes Tom:
Tom's School Site:
or you could strip out the color codes and have it display fine.
Originally Posted by GirlJock
Originally Posted by Cy Q. Faunce
They are both the same place (same phone numbers). My guess is they had that site before cbjj.net
I just contacted Tom Cissero himself using the phone number on his web site.
The exact words out of his mouth were:
"I never even heard of that guy"
Tom was very cordial with me and explained in no uncertain terms that Matt Barvo has never trained with him. I explained that I would make it very clear that he is not associated with Matt (he said "Very good. I don't know him."), thanked him for his time and we hung up.
OK. I'm not sure if this is the guy Barvo is claiming rank from, but if it is, that's a problem.