Even mods take a day off

[jnp]

First, I am not a Judo guy. Yes I have trained with them. Yes, I have fought in matches against them. Same with Sambo.

I am a BJJ guy, period. An old school, BJJ guy.

That said, the subject of hip throws in Judo interests me

If you decide to start **** with someone, I would appreciate it if you would do so somewhere else besides AGD.

I wonder where that iron fist that moderates this forum is?

I was at work, and then on a date with my wife, our first in nine months. We saw the movie Date Night, . . . on our date night.

Truthfully, I am reluctant to remove your posts from threads in AGD. In fairness though, I can't move Hedge's posts without moving your responses.


I've hung out with Hedge at several Bullshido throwdowns. I've sparred with him on more than one occasion. Worked security at a party with him a few years ago.

He's interesting to deal with offline, but he's stuck on BJJihad attack dog mode online, like a broken record player.

A lot of you younger BJJ stooges who think you're holier than Judo could save yourself a lot of trouble if you realized that a martial art is not completely defined by it's rule set. There are plenty of Judo guys out there practicing under a less restrictive rules than those that apply in tournaments.

Hell, conversely, I hear there's a few BJJ guys who have takedown skills.

[Omega Supreme]

*spits on ground.

[Kintanon]

Takedown? Is that like, when you pull guard, only on top? I'm not sure I understand.

[foxd]

I think it's like the opposite of pulling guard or something. I don't know why you'd ever need to, because in ZHOO ZHITSOO the guard is all you'll ever need.

Takedowns. Perish the thought.

[Zapruder]

How does someone that sucks SOOOOOOOO bad open his face like this....I guess he really IS GJJ *folds arm across chest and grabs tricep*

[3moose1]

Can someone explain these takedowns to me? Does that mean I actually have to stand up? I usually sit down as soon as the whistle goes off...when do I perform a "takedown"?

[Hedgehogey]

Posting this after coming back from the spring promotional judo tourney, to lend some context.

It's not Judo I hate. I do Judo. It's Judoka who have this weird pseudo founder's syndrome thing. I mean ****, when a Chunner says he can stop me with his antigrappling, at least he's acknowledging that BJJ is not nested inside WC like a fucking russian doll. The Judoka i'm talking about can't ever seem to do this. You'd never hear this attitude from BJJers.

But don't take my word for it! [s]Take a look, it's in a book...[/s] If any of the abovementioned Judoka (you know who you are) honestly believes that, go and enter some high level BJJ comps. It shouldn't be too hard for you.

[Lu Tze]

Surely SAMBO would be nested inside Judo like a Russian doll?

BJJ is more like a thong riding up Judo's ass crack.

[Uncle Skippy]

BJJ is more like a thong riding up Judo's ass crack.

Absolutely. BJJ makes Judo sexy.

[Mtripp]

Posting this after coming back from the spring promotional judo tourney, to lend some context.

It's not Judo I hate. I do Judo. It's Judoka who have this weird pseudo founder's syndrome thing. I mean ****, when a Chunner says he can stop me with his antigrappling, at least he's acknowledging that BJJ is not nested inside WC like a fucking russian doll. The Judoka i'm talking about can't ever seem to do this. You'd never hear this attitude from BJJers.

But don't take my word for it! [s]Take a look, it's in a book...[/s] If any of the abovementioned Judoka (you know who you are) honestly believes that, go and enter some high level BJJ comps. It shouldn't be too hard for you.

Bull ****....

ANY BJJ blue belt can defeat ANY Judo Belt....

Insert another hundred fatuous assertions from the BJJ/GJJ crowd over the last 15 years we are to ignore as he wants to say "Its those mean Judo guys messing it up. BJ people NEVER do these things"

Underground version? "We love Judo, its just Mark Tripp we hate."

Translation? "We lose the debate EVERY time we mess with him." Its really the same problem here, or do you think I forgot how you opened your very first post here to me? Why not tell these kind folks just how long and at how many other places we have danced this dance?

Then, we can go back to the core issue:

1. Name ONE takedown in BJJ that is NOT in Judo
2. Name ONE submission that is in BJJ but NOT in Judo.

If you want to say BJJ is NOT a subset of Judo, then please tell me where it came from? We can do this silly crap all day.

YOU just had to shake my tree, so don't bitch about the apples....