Posted On:4/17/2010 9:30pm
Style: judo hiatus
Anyone having served in the military knows there are relatively few slots for instructors teaching hand to hand combat. Most are E5 or above. Certainly not 17 year old point fighters.
I've contacted the young man by email. He hasn't replied after the initial correspondence to find out who was contacting him. I told him I was inquiring about Krav Maga. One of the stories my former coworker told me was that Bentley claimed to have gone to Israel where he learned KM.
He's currently teaching out of Cabot, Arkansas.
Last edited by hungryjoe; 4/17/2010 9:48pm at .
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Posted On:4/17/2010 9:53pm
From one of the social networking sites:
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13 years in martial arts
4 years teaching hand-hand tactics: US Army
Posted On:4/23/2010 10:30pm
Style: Finding You
I doubt his story. Very few people teach hand-to-hand combat full-time in the Army, and unless he served multiple hitches, there's no way he did it for four years.
Still, the best thing would be to get him to explain. Maybe he knows something we don't, or has some explanation.
Posted On:4/23/2010 11:54pm
In all fairness, this is most likely a case of padding the resume.
Still, I had a coworker tell me told him that me that Bentley told him he went to Israel, wherein he learned Krav Maga.
Anyone familiar with ATA knows their penchant for latching onto the current craze (MMA at this time).
An email has been sent:
Since you've not responded to the Krav Maga questions;
Are you padding your resume?
Show one instance where the US Army or any other military organization in the world has had a 17 year old teaching do or die H2H combat to their unit.
What unit were you in where you were teaching this?
Care to respond at:
Robert Bentley ATA taught H2H combat while in the US Army.......at age 17 - No BS MMA and Martial Arts
Clarify now and all will be put aside.
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Posted On:4/24/2010 8:21am
I would think that due to legal (military) reasons and the duty of care the Armed Forces has to it's members, I seriously doubt a 17 year old would be placed with such responsibility, even if he had the skills.
"To sin by silence when one should protest makes cowards out of men".
Posted On:4/24/2010 8:40am
Guy Who Pays the Bills and Gets the Death Threats Style: MMA (Retired)
The Army has a standardized, MMA-based combatives program now. 17 year olds in the Army don't teach anything; they shut the **** up and do what they're told. I've never seen a 17 year old over the rank of E2.
And I'm sitting here staring at a fucking gaggle of 17-18 year old recruits as I type this.
Posted On:4/24/2010 9:19am
I only met one H2H instructor when I was working with the Army. He was an E-5, Special Forces, weighed about 100lbs less than me and would kick my ass without even breathing hard. I think he was older than 17.
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Posted On:4/24/2010 9:30am
it's always been explained to me that you don't see much H2H in the army, because they have grenades, RPGs, guns, knives, tomahawk missiles, and other various whammy kablammys to **** you up with.
h2h is last resort/hollywood ****
Originally Posted by it is fake
yeah, normally i'd get a quote, but couldn't be bothered.
Posted On:4/24/2010 9:37am
I've received a response to the email sent and have sent a more or less respectful reply.
It's not a though the young man is guilty of the stolen valor act. Hopefully he'll pop in. He has read the thread.
Other than padding his resume, it's a riot to think that someone from the ATA kiddie black belt program would claim to be an army instructor in H2H.
Perhaps this thread should have been started in YMAS.
On a good note, he is getting his feet wet in amateur MMA.
Posted On:4/27/2010 10:33am
Usually instructors in the military are E4 (Lowest possible grade) and above with the average being the NCO Tier (E5-E6). E1-E3 are never in a instructor capacity. It's not just about their knowledge also about being able to command the necessary and proper respect.
Now he might have taught his friends on base and used that as saying he was a H-H instructor. That by no means makes him an official "instructor" for the army.
Could he have come in as a higher rank other than E1? Yea, if he had college credit or if he was an Eagle scout.
does he say anything else about his military record? Where was his station? His MOS? Anything?
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