4/15/2010 1:27am, #21
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4/16/2010 9:50pm, #22
I to do not do mma, although I have done some no gi work.
4/16/2010 9:57pm, #23
I have a much harder time sweeping bigger, heavier guys who know what they are doing. But then it is hard to sweep anyone who has much training, regardless of size.
Sorry for the rambling, when I do ne waza, I don't really think about stuff anymore, top, bottom, side, slow or fast it's kind of all getting to be the same for me now.
Why not try the "pinning style" yourself. I suppose as long time Judo guy that is what I do? I can move pretty fast and loose on top when I want too, but as i get older I do that less and less.
4/17/2010 12:09pm, #24
as to trying to play a pinning game, i actually do try, because i didn't come to judo to work my submission grappling skills, i came to learn judo. with that in mind, i work on the weakest parts of my judo newaza game, and that is pinning and escaping from pins.
the problem is that a lot of the guys are big enough that they can bench-press me off of them when i try to pin them, so after they do that, i will go for a choke or submission, and then usually not get it and then get caught in a pin, or stalled in half guard."Face punches are an essential character building part of a martial art. You don't truly love your children unless you allow them to get punched in the face." - chi-conspiricy
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4/17/2010 12:54pm, #25
Now, back on track, rubber guard has not gotten much attention here. I LOVE using mission control to set up both attacks and sweeps. I will threaten with the triangle so that they defend and I can get my hips out to the side, once I make the adjustment I can let go and either sweep or stand up or go for a side choke or armlock, depending on what I have available at the time.
Most of these chains in no gi look more like a flow chart than a direct chain of events, there is just too much movement to be taken into account. (I have to run to lunch now I will post more when I get back)
4/17/2010 8:44pm, #26
Sometimes it's not possible to get a submission from a given escape attempt, you have to move to a position where you can maintain control, and either bait (which won't necessarily work on experienced guys), or wait until the time is right.
Sorry if you are familiar with that stuff already, I know you have been grappling for a while, but am never really sure exactly what someone has been exposed to or practiced.
4/17/2010 8:57pm, #27
Ming: I'm sure I'm smaller than you are, most people can bench press me off of them. They key for me has been airplane/helicopter drills. Get in side control and have your opponent try to bench press you off while you practice circling towards his head and keeping your weight down. Let him continue trying to escape as you move back and forth from side to north south, to the other side and back. Be dynamic, pop up to Knee on Belly and back down, etc...
4/18/2010 1:08am, #28
4/18/2010 5:17am, #29
<<<Mark: I know most Judoka are against training from the knees, but do you think that there might be some value to training from the knees in Judo as it relates to figuring out how to put Sweeps together on the ground?>>>
Ummm.... not so sure about judoka being against the "from the knees" thing. Yes, if I am dealing with a jackass I might make a reference about it, but if being honest about it, it has a lot going for it.
First, and foremost, it avoids some hard core banging to the mat. That is kinda tough on the body and not every class needs to be that hard on you. However, if it becomes a session about who can pull guard first, then it is of no value to Judo. Why? Well because almost no one can pass a closed guard in Judo before you get stood up.
Very old Judo guys will remember mat randori where you sit on the mat, back to back, and you then "go." I think this has value as well because there is a "scramble" element to the entire game, and it prevents the "quick pull guard" thing.
Personally I think the most neglected part in most schools are development drills. Examples?
1. Rodeo ride: You have their back with rear mount, one hand on the lapel, you get 10 seconds to submit the person.
2. Turn the turtle: As it sounds, you have 10 seconds to turn the turtle on its back.
There are many more but you get the idea. Because of the limited time rules; if we are speaking about Contest Judo under IJF rules, ne waza needs to be a very fast and explosive thing. Drills of this nature assist in that skill set."Out of every hundred men, ten shouldn't even be there, eighty are just targets, nine are the real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, for they make the battle. Ah, but the one, one is a warrior, and he will bring the others back." -- Hericletus, circa 500 BC
4/18/2010 4:07pm, #30
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