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    My favorite throw is actually done from elbow/armpit control, where you have your lead leg trapping the outside of their thigh and dump them across the leg. On the "double neck tie" I typically don't bother going for it unless someone is practically giving me their head.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KidSpatula View Post
    My favorite throw is actually done from elbow/armpit control, where you have your lead leg trapping the outside of their thigh and dump them across the leg. On the "double neck tie" I typically don't bother going for it unless someone is practically giving me their head.
    My fave throw is from the same position, except my lead leg (left leg) is to the inside of their left leg. I knee bump their left leg as I pull/push them... (with the appropriate footwork, of course).

    I'm a big fan of the various "knee bump" techniques to initiate throws....

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    Man I wish "canada" was closer.

    Favorite throw. From any control: Turn opponent towards your power leg and kick whichever leg they step with. ++points from any judge and super ++points from a judge that knows Muay Thai.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KidSpatula View Post
    My favorite throw is actually done from elbow/armpit control, where you have your lead leg trapping the outside of their thigh and dump them across the leg
    Man that is so effective. Sadly I found out by getting dumped probably 4 times in the first round to that tonight. It just threw me off guard that when we clinched, the guy wouldn't go for the normal clinch and opt for that.

    Got TKO'd by leg kicks. Was aiming for one leg, until he hit my other knee and found out that I had a bad knee. Ah well, kid just outclassed me it seemed.

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    the Khun Khao post I accidentally deleted.

    I dug out my Malaipet Clinch DVD to come up with a couple examples of what I was talking to in regards to footwork.

    In Technique #9: Into the Clinch "Offensive Head Neck Control - Pull Down", Malaipet initiates the twisting of his opponent by stepping 45 degrees forward with his left foot, stepping around the outside of his opponent's right foot, before pivoting to twist his opponent into position for the knee strike.

    In Technique #11: Into the Clinch "Offensive Head Neck Control - Throw #1", Malaipet initiates the throw by stepping BETWEEN his opponents legs with his left leg, and pulls his opponent over it for the trip.

    While I *like* Technique #11, due to my less-than-stellar upper body strength, I have trouble pulling it off the way Malaipet does it. I have found that I am able to get more leverage by stepping to the outside of my opponents leg prior to pivoting and twisting.

    There are a number of instances where Malaipet doesn't really take an initial step before pivoting/twisting his opponent. Again for me, due to lack of significant upper body strength, I find that stepping around the outside of my opponents legs prior to the pivot gives me the leverage I need to execute throws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteShark View Post
    the Khun Khao post I accidentally deleted.
    it's sitting in trollshido. you could just move it back.

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    I'm not a moderator in Trollshido so I can't move posts FROM there.

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    I haven't gotten through all of it yet, but I really like the head and arm locks. Anyone given those a run-through yet? I'm probably going to try them next week.

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    I've been using them fine except for the the first one he shows as a counter to the plumb, everyone seems to know exactly what i'm going for with that one and they resist their arm being pushed up. For the other locks just be careful with that sweep takedown he shows after you throw a knee.. I landed really awkwardly on my elbow doing that one and its not healing very quickly.

    I'm REALLY liking his counter to the knee where you throw your knee under your opponent's knee then turn them like a steering wheel onto their arse. Scores highly, looks good, can be done from an inferior clinch position and completely stops people from throwing slow, weak knees just for the sake of getting a few points.

    Noob problem i'm having - theres a 76kg Maori fellow, completely shredded and strong as an ox who has a neck i can't bend. Whenever i get the plumb i can't do anything with it even if i get perfect leverage with the step and use all my strength. What do you do with these guys? Just ignore going for the plumb and work head/arm control to score with knees/throws?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sang View Post
    ...Whenever i get the plumb i can't do anything with it even if i get perfect leverage with the step and use all my strength. What do you do with these guys? Just ignore going for the plumb and work head/arm control to score with knees/throws?
    Yes, that's what I do most of the time anyway. Like KidSpatula, I only go for the guy's head if he's offering it to me on a platter. I'm perfectly happy with one arm over and one arm under... you can throw your opponent fairly easily from that position with the push/pull and good footwork, and you can also raise his elbow with your arm to deliver knees to his ribs.

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