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  1. ChenPengFi is online now
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3moose1 View Post
    What is so good about tantos?
    I've heard that the tip can be made stronger.
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    If you look at the tip it is fairly thick and is less likley to break.
    Same with bayonets
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carpe Noctem View Post
    I wouldn't show up to a deployment with something like that. Really, something with about a 5-6 inch blade will do you, especially in today's AO. Anyone packing a Rambo knife is usually pegged as "that guy" early on.
    A leatherman would find more use in a war than a death killing knife?
    but what would you use to kill people with?
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    You'd hit the lung first.
    Good point. Better not, then. Somebody might get hurt.
    :p

    A leatherman would find more use in a war than a death killing knife?
    but what would you use to kill people with?
    Pliers. But, it must be admitted, I am indeed HARDCORE.



    Back to the topic at hand, bottom line:

    That dual-bladed dagger has several problems:

    1. The one in the photo is (was) made by United Cutlery out of pot metal. Even if the design had some advantage to recommend it (more on that in a moment) that particular knife is junk.

    2. I just can't think of an advantage. If you want to cut something, you still have two edges, just like any double-edged blade. Similar geometry, too. But as someone pointed out, the mass of the already relatively weak double-edged blade has been separated into two blades that are sure to be even weaker. If you thrust that thing into something or someone, I'm sure it would penetrate OK in soft tissue, but no better than a normal diamond cross-section dagger and often much worse depending on what gets into that space between the blades.

    3. It's basically a fantasy knife. Appreciate it for what it is (the cutlery equivalent of a painting of a panther on black velvet) and you'll be able to buy one and enjoy it for years. Maybe as much as I enjoy the painting of a panther on black velvet over my fireplace.
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    The strength of a double edged, or any other blade is relative to:

    Material type.

    Material thickness.

    Hardness / temper.

    Internal stresses produced from the fabrication process itself.

    Bottom line:

    The wasp is a gimmick.

    Played with this design around 20 years ago.

    Fact of the matter, the internal edges are one hellofa bitch to sharpen, even for someone who can produce a keen edge on an external surface.

    Want optimum wound size?


    In, up and twist. A double edged weapon is good at this. A double edged weapon is good at this. The In, up and twist. A double edged weapon is good at this. The In, up and twist. A double edged weapon is good at this. The blade does not have to be double edged for the full length of the blade and you still have a nice single point for those other functions oft needed from a service tool.


    Be it for home, hunting. pocket or carry while in the military, a knife is foremost a Be it for home, hunting. pocket or carry while in the military, a knife is foremost a tool. Self defense is secondary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gregaquaman View Post
    A leatherman would find more use in a war than a death killing knife?
    but what would you use to kill people with?
    Yes, you'd get much more use out of a Leatherman.

    You kill people with your rifle/sidearm/arty/airstrikes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3moose1 View Post
    What is so good about tantos?
    Its a thrusting weapon I think. The tip is made tougher like mentioned by Chenpengfi. I don't think it cuts as well as spear points/etc knives.
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    Tantos usually have less distal taper, so as per Hungryjoe, thickness = strength.

    I think this guy needs the Wasp tho'...
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    Just read last night's post.

    Pitiful.

    Should have had more whiskey :-(
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    Ummm.... Moose et al? You all do know I have a wholesale account with Cold Steel? Likely I can get other knives wholesale too.....
    "Out of every hundred men, ten shouldn't even be there, eighty are just targets, nine are the real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, for they make the battle. Ah, but the one, one is a warrior, and he will bring the others back." -- Hericletus, circa 500 BC
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