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    All martial arts boil down to who's fighting

    I know that bullshido is about pointing out which fighting styles are bad and which ones are good but doesn't a fight boil down to the fighter, not the martial arts he uses? I understand it comes into play but not everyone who takes a certain martial art is good at it. Watching a fight where the fighters use different styles and say the guy who lost has a terrible style of martial arts is narrow-minded way of thinking. He was a bad martial artist. Every martial art is useful it's just dependent on who uses it.:evil5:
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    Do you feel training methods have any impact on the outcomes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninnong View Post
    I know that bullshido is about pointing out which fighting styles are bad and which ones are good but doesn't a fight boil down to the fighter, not the martial arts he uses? I understand it comes into play but not everyone who takes a certain martial art is good at it. If you see a fight where the fighters use different styles and say the guy who lost has a terrible style of martial arts is narrow-minded. He was a bad martial artist. Every martial art is useful it's just dependent on who uses it.:evil5:
    Lets say 75% of boxers can kick your ass.

    Lets say 20% of karateka can kick your ass

    Lets say .0125% of chunners can kick your ass.

    Given that you want to be able to fight effectively, looking at the statistic shown, which would you choose? Your argument has a point, however if certain styles, when paired up against other styles, repeatedly win, it indicates (at least to me) that they are better ways to kick ass.

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    Training is important

    Yes training is important for any martial artist. Some martial arts have different training methods employed for their styles but for the most part training boils down to sparring, muscular training (did I spell that right?), and technique training.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninnong View Post
    Yes training is important for any martial artist. Some martial arts have different training methods employed for their styles but for the most part training boils down to sparring, muscular training (did I spell that right?), and technique training.
    And all martial arts styles do sparring.

    And what techniques you practice is not important; aikido techniques are just as effective as judo techniques.

    Is this what you’re suggesting?
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    And many styles don't spar, thus missing a vital part of any training.
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    what if one of the fighters has a knife?
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    what if one of the fighters has a knife?
    Suppose he’s got a pointed stick?
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    Suppose he’s got a pointed stick?
    or suppose if you will a can of mace.
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    statistics

    Good point but some people are naturally better at some styles of martial arts than others. A big person is probably better at boxing than he is at taekwando, a small person might be better at kung fu than at wrestling, and an agile person might be better at capoeira (I know I spelled that wrong) than at muy thai. Sometimes statistics doesn't matter for the individual.
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