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  1. MMAMickey is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrackFox View Post
    Awesome. well i suppose if I don't get standing time, an ex-judo guy who trains there has told me he'll stay and train standup with me after class, so its all good.
    "The hero and the coward both feel the same thing, but the hero projects his fear onto his opponent while the coward runs. 'Fear'. It's the same thing, but it's what you do with it that matters". - Cus D'Amato
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    It's BJJ, so your sacrifice throws and shoots will be trained.

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    You know you are crazy about BJJ/Martial arts when...
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    ...your books on Kama Sutra and BJJ are interchangeable.
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    It looks like this is a great fighting method if someone replaces your shampoo with superglue.
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    The discussion of effective take downs is a hard one. Most people do not understand the methodology. I see talk of points and sequences for getting them ie. pull guard, sweep, and mount. How about throw then submit and win. While its a little simple it works very effectively.

    More and more people are starting to see what I am talking about when it comes to the use of good Judo in BJJ. Only problem is when people know you can throw them they tend to pull guard a lot faster. Once people start seeing proper Judo and not ippon Judo in BJJ they will wake up and take notice. Infusing both together is a wise choice.
    Judo is only gentle for the guy on top.
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     Style: Judo, Sub wrestling

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMAMickey View Post
    ah wut.
    has anyone ever managed an ippon style throw in a BJJ tournament?

    I take it the experience would still be worth doing as long as they start from standing though?
    Look up Margarida, Jacare, Roger Gracie, and Leo Vieira on youtube.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Negation View Post
    Look up Margarida, Jacare, Roger Gracie, and Leo Vieira on youtube.
    you're right, I saw some Jacare stuff a while ago and I was impressed
    "The hero and the coward both feel the same thing, but the hero projects his fear onto his opponent while the coward runs. 'Fear'. It's the same thing, but it's what you do with it that matters". - Cus D'Amato
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach Josh View Post
    The discussion of effective take downs is a hard one. Most people do not understand the methodology. I see talk of points and sequences for getting them ie. pull guard, sweep, and mount. How about throw then submit and win. While its a little simple it works very effectively.

    More and more people are starting to see what I am talking about when it comes to the use of good Judo in BJJ. Only problem is when people know you can throw them they tend to pull guard a lot faster. Once people start seeing proper Judo and not ippon Judo in BJJ they will wake up and take notice. Infusing both together is a wise choice.
    Agreed. My former coach (who left to open a more purely judo school) used a lot of judo sweeps and throws in order to get to, and maintain, control before sliding into more of his BJJ game once it hit the mat. He used to say that he wanted BJJ guys to be afraid of his stand up game, and judo guys to be afraid of his mat work. His competition record definitely backed up the wisdom of the idea (...along with his talent and years of dedication that is).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach Josh View Post
    The discussion of effective take downs is a hard one. Most people do not understand the methodology. I see talk of points and sequences for getting them ie. pull guard, sweep, and mount. How about throw then submit and win. While its a little simple it works very effectively.

    More and more people are starting to see what I am talking about when it comes to the use of good Judo in BJJ. Only problem is when people know you can throw them they tend to pull guard a lot faster. Once people start seeing proper Judo and not ippon Judo in BJJ they will wake up and take notice. Infusing both together is a wise choice.
    Dave Camarillo made his name based on these principles. He's gotten much more into MMA but some of his students still compete in Judo and BJJ competitions (and fare well). He advocates essentially throws into control positions - landing in a spot where you don't have to pass guard. Makes tons of sense to me in this context.
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     Style: BJJ, mma

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    There was a guy in my division at one of my tournaments who blazed through us all hitting a hip throw then armlocking from scarf hold. Then again, he did apparently have several years of wrestling experience.

    My school at least has a lot of wrestling stuff because one of the guys who comes in and helps out was a state champion in wrestling before becoming a pro fighter.
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    saulo has some awesome seoinage's in bjj competition... same with jacare.
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    Posted On:
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     Style: Judo

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    YouTube- Ribeiro Brothers Highlight
    You can see several Ippon Seoi-nage's as well as a few other takedowns in this highlight.
    YouTube- Roger Gracie
    Roger uses a bunch of footsweeps at the start of this one.
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