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    Military Fighters?

    I know Bob Schirmer was in the marines, and he faught there, but do the marines just spar or do they have they're own circuit, and if so, what's it called and how's the pay?

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    marines are in develpoment of a new system called MMAP or Marine Martial Arts Program, and it uses a belt system that marines were in their cammy uniforms. their main mission right now is gettin marines trained and qualified in the basics (tan Belt). but i know and work with the instructor and instructor trainers and there are talks about a type of competition in the marine corps. its still in the planning stages. (stand up fighting, ground fighting, standing to ground, standing to ground with weapons, etc).

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    let me know more about it if you can. I have 2 years to think about joining the army, but once I do...

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    Military men dont fight, they shoot guns and fire missles. That technique can pretty much get any Kung Fu, Karate OR BJJ practitioner tapping pretty quick.
    "All warfare is based on deception." -Sun Tzu, ca. 400BC


    Reverse punch Kiaii!!!

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    The level of "martial arts" skill in the military is very low, better than the average person, but still low.

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    "let me know more about it if you can. I have 2 years to think about joining the army, but once I do..."

    Not sure about your reasons for joining the military, but do NOT join to learn personal combat skills. I have students and friends from every branch, and they all say the same thing - very poor training. Not their fault- just the way the military works. Personal combat skills is a low priority.

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    I will join if there's a HTH fighter position availible. and it pays well. I mean, even cops and firefighters box.

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    Unless your life's goal is special ops, and you have what it takes to make it, don't join. I promise you will be disappointed. I train cops, firefighters, EMTs, EP operators, even an occasional SF guy who can swallow his pride - they all need the same skills and they don't get it in the military. The military is good for setting the correct mindset (kill or be killed) but it's not good for technique. You can find better instruction in a 100 mile radius no matter where you live. And if you want the CQB tactics, you can get the basics at several different tactical schools. You'd be better off saving your money and attending those schools. If you want to serve your country, that's a different story. But just for combat skills, I'd advise you to look elsewhere.

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    Right now all the marines at my base are in a fit of training in MMAP, as belt level in it is now a factor in promotion to the SNCO ranks, or so says the instructor. He says they are still working out the curriculum, but it looks like a fairly standard mix of kickboxing and judo from the few times I've observed.
    But everyone trains very hard and seriously, and they are all in good shape, which face it, counts for about 80% of self defense skill.
    "Quiet fool before I am kicking the butt!"
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    well they have 2 years before I can join to improve it.

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