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Guy Who Pays the Bills and Gets the Death Threats Style: MMA (Retired)--
Good write-up, but I'm not exactly sure why you needed to link every instance of "Swain Flex-roll".
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3/15/2010 6:27pm--
I also have Swain/Dollamur flexi-roll mats and honestly for the price I paid I was expecting more.
Don't get me wrong, I think they are great, but I don't know if they are best value.
Before I got the flexi-roll mats I was using cheap puzzle mats that cost about $1,500 to cover about 1000 sq ft of training space.
It cost over $6,000 to cover the same space with my brand new Dollamur flexi-roll mats.
The flexi-roll mats are light and extremely easy to move, but without a border or a lot of tape with will move around as much as any other mat. While puzzle mats lock together and Zebra Mats can be arranged in a pattern to minimize slippage, the flexi-rolls have long seams that go the length of the mat. When the mats slip you get one long continous gap and without a border or tape this happens often.
I also found it difficult to get my mats to lay completely flat. The edges would often roll up and there was always a slight change of elevation at the seams that would catch your foot if you slid across it. Dollamur offers "seamless" tape the matches the color of your mats, but it is so thick it ends up making two edges to catch your foot on instead of the one it was supposed to replace. On top of that, the seamless tape is meant to be permanent, and to only be used if you're not planning on moving the mats frequently, which completely goes against these mats best attribute. Normal mat tape works well, but your have to retape every time and that can be a pain.
Since buying the mats I have closed my commerical school and now run an after school program for kids. These mats are perfect for this, because I need to lay out and pickup the mats for every class. Unless you are in a similar situaiton I don't know if I can honestly recommend them.
Protection is good, but so were the old mats. Durability is ok. I have one student accdiently drop a escrima stick from waist height and it tore a hole in the vinyl top, that I repaired with a small square of the "seamless tape". I've had the mats for about 1.5 years and other small cracks a tears starting to show up.Last edited by Punisher; 3/15/2010 6:42pm at .
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Posted On:
3/16/2010 10:34am
Style: Brazilian Jiu Jitsu--
I've got two of the 5x10 home mats for my garage. Overall, I'm really happy with the quality of the mats. Like Punisher, the main gripe I have is with the seam. I currently tape them but for a home mat that's intended to be rolled out every day or two and put away after training, tape gets spendy. And not taping isn't an option, as they slip around on the cement.
For a rollout, home mat, some kind of velcro seam or something to keep the mats together would be much better. While I'm working to figure this out on my own, after dropping $400 on 10x10 worth of mat, I probably would have looked for something else if I'd known ahead of time. -
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3/16/2010 1:22pm

Style: Stick, Taiji, combatives--
I've got these same flex roll mats. I think they are awesome. They do move around a little bit if you don't tape them. But I taped them as soon as I got them and they have been great since. I actualy expected to tape them because I have broken toes between seems before. I have rolled on zebra mats and most of the guys hat mat burns all over the place. We don't have any with these swain mats.
And if you are going to be moving the mats, you can't get much easier than these mats. Those zebra mats are bulky and agrivating.
I agree that these mats are the best over all.Combatives training log.
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Posted On:
3/16/2010 2:15pm
Style: Christopher Hitchens-do--
lol, the man likes his Swain Flex-Roll!
i know what he means with moldy, degrading tatami mats though. one time we had to lift up the mats as they were shifting a bit, and WOW, the stank, the stank! i smelled for the entire class and then some more. definitely cannot be healthy.
as to the tape problem mentioned, yes it is extrememly annoying to tape and untape each class, i read somewhere that this guy TIES up the mats around the side, once they've been laid down, and really tighten it up with a clamp, so there are no gaps between the mats. he said it saves him tons of time, every class. you won't get the same flatness as using tape, but the gruffy material will hold eachother pretty flat, once you stomp on them. -
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Posted On:
6/18/2010 11:01am
Style: Universal Martial Arts--
A friend of mine has these in his BJJ school.
Something i really liked about them....
The surface is stiff with the spongy layer underneath.
This gives it a nice Spring Floor feeling (compared to wrestling mats which I am used to).
The surface gives a lot of traction but I don't like it without a Gi and it burned up the tops of my feet.
Would hate to get my face smashed into it...have had wrestling mat burn on my temples before. On this mat you might lose some skin :)



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