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  1. TheMightyMcClaw is offline
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    Posted On:
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    Historical saber references?

    As I mentioned on YMAS, I'm going to be doing fight choreography for an independent movie over the summer. At one point in this film, there's a duel between a character wielding a shillelagh and a character wielding a saber. While i'm finding a decent number of resources for shillelagh techniques, I'm having a hard time finding stuff on how Ye Olde Sabers were used. I thought I saw a whole series of videos on the very subject on this forum, but now cannot seem to find them.
    So yeah, any manuals/instructional videos on historical saber techniques would be much appreciated.
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    a gentleman made a post in the thread "Fencing vs. HEMA" about Swedish sabre manuals i believe

    No BS MMA and Martial Arts - View Single Post - Fencing or HEMA?

    edit: hadn't looked at those before. They are similar (by my glancing over it) to the modern shenanigans. I might put some of these things into my modern fencing game. fusho
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    I am the one who posted that, and I run the Hroarr site with the material. My club also has a sabre group practicing from those manuals. You can see some of it here: http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...abre+ghfs&aq=f

    Here's some HEMA competition sabre: YouTube- Swordfish sabre final 2009

    You can also search for British Sabre fencing according to Hutton on YT:

    http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...ton+sabre&aq=f

    Or classical Italian sabre fencing:

    YouTube- Eric Meyers vs John Sullins, dueling sabre bout WMAW 2009


    Good luck!
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    Military Saber or Dueling Saber?

    There's a whole crapload of manuals on Military Saber available. But the weight of the weapon makes the bread-n-butter techniques somewhat boring visually.

    Here are some that I use as source material:

    Military Sabre/Cutlass:
    http://www.anesi.com/prsefs.htm
    http://www.ejmas.com/jnc/jncart_burtonnewsword_0200.htm
    http://www.thehaca.com/pdf/ColdSteel.pdf
    http://www.careyroots.com/broadsword.html
    http://www.lulu.com/content/paperbac...ercise/1848595
    http://www.lulu.com/content/paperbac...dsword/7757776
    http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...3/cassell.html
    http://www.navyandmarine.org/cutlass...869cutlass.pdf
    http://www.navyandmarine.org/cutlass...906cutlass.pdf

    There are also a number of google books, if you search, such as this one:
    http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=v...page&q&f=false

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMcClaw View Post
    As I mentioned on YMAS, I'm going to be doing fight choreography for an independent movie over the summer. At one point in this film, there's a duel between a character wielding a shillelagh and a character wielding a saber. While i'm finding a decent number of resources for shillelagh techniques, I'm having a hard time finding stuff on how Ye Olde Sabers were used. I thought I saw a whole series of videos on the very subject on this forum, but now cannot seem to find them.
    No BS MMA and Martial Arts - View Single Post - trying to help someone
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    Have you considered using Messer techniques for sabre? If you do you can always find more than a couple Fechtbücher for that and see where that takes you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CodosDePiedra View Post
    There's a good DVD set by Cold Steel with Lynn Thompson and Anthony DeLongis that's pretty good.
    Mr. DeLongis certainly knows what he's about and Mr. Thompson knows where to go to get good training.

    That said, I've never been able to talk myself into the high price-tag for these videos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lklawson View Post
    Mr. DeLongis certainly knows what he's about and Mr. Thompson knows where to go to get good training.
    Well said.

    That said, I've never been able to talk myself into the high price-tag for these videos.

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    A friend of mine works for a cutlery distributor, and somehow they came across the DVDs but nobody there really wanted them, so I got them for free. Also a nice set about the sarong with Ron Balicki that's pretty cool even though I'm not really interested in training with one. And I got the Warrior's Edge series at a huge discount when they were trying to get rid of their VHS tapes to switch to DVDs. I probably wouldn't spend full price on any of their videos either.
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    just FYI you can get a lot of the cold steel DVDs on ebay pretty cheap. Or at the Cold Steel Challenge their stuff is always really marked down, and they will haggle with you too. At the last one I went to I got the Sjambok and Saber series for less than $40 each and 10 of their escrima sticks for $100. On ebay I got the Warrior's Edge DVD series for $30 with shipping.
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