Kyokoshin vs Shotokan

**DayOfTheJackass** · Posted On: 4/03/2010 11:09pm

man i googled that and watched some clips. version i saw was airborne, not a roll on mat!

**kolsyrade** · Posted On: 4/04/2010 3:44am

Originally Posted by faded/day

I have seen stuff like this go down at knockdown tourneys. Can any other kyokushin guys remind what the hell that front flip kick that people do sometimes is called? I have seen it result in a knockout, and as much as it would only work on mats (you land on your ass even if done right) it is cool as f@$% to see.

Its formal name is Domawashi kaiten geri. Although it is often called just Domawashi geri or just Kaiten geri.

It comes in basically 3 version:
Mae domawashi kaiten geri, where you roll straight forward in basically a straight judo forward roll
Yoko domawashi kaiten geri where you roll forward while turning sideways.
Ura Domawashi kaiten geri, where you spin around and a roll away from the opponent.

Its a bit hard to explain in words, so here is a vid that goes through all 3 version. The video creator calls them forward rolling kick (=Mae domawashi kaiten geri), Falling kick (=yoko domawashi kaiten geri) and falling back heel kick (=ura domawashi kaiten geri).

Its not a great instructional, but it gives a good view of the kick variations.
YouTube- 009-Teaching kaiten geri in 10 minutes

and a better instructional for two of the versions from the same guy.
YouTube- 055-Basic Kaiten geri / falling kicks tutorial

**DayOfTheJackass** · Posted On: 4/04/2010 7:45pm

...this ever happen in other rulesets? I'm guessing not mma!

**RealManOfSteel** · Posted On: 4/04/2010 8:45pm

I youtubed fight knockouts with that kick. Very funny, I'm sure you would feel like a badass.

But remember on T3h str33tz your ass would land bad and you would get sodomized by a heroin syringe. Or something.

**kolsyrade** · Posted On: 4/04/2010 9:28pm

Originally Posted by RealManOfSteel

I youtubed fight knockouts with that kick. Very funny, I'm sure you would feel like a badass.

But remember on T3h str33tz your ass would land bad and you would get sodomized by a heroin syringe. Or something.

Ofcourse! Its a rule adapted technique used in fight SPORT. You find them in every competition system. Muay thai clinch and BJJ guard are both great -until you fight someone with a knife.

**kolsyrade** · Posted On: 4/04/2010 9:37pm

Originally Posted by DayOfTheJackass

...this ever happen in other rulesets? I'm guessing not mma!

Yes. Kickboxing.
check out Peter Graham vs Badr Hari I (k-1 Oceania 2006)
Badr was out for something like 5-6 minutes, and shattered his jaw in multiple places.

Jadamba Naratungalang hit Albert Kraus with it in K-1 Max a few years ago. Kraus was saved by the bell (round 1), but was visibly affected long into the next round. He still won in the end, though.

A few other times, but names escapes me.

Ive seen it tried in MMA, but never by anyone who actually knew how to do it.

**RealManOfSteel** · Posted On: 4/05/2010 2:32am

Originally Posted by kolsyrade

Ofcourse! Its a rule adapted technique used in fight SPORT. You find them in every competition system. Muay thai clinch and BJJ guard are both great -until you fight someone with a knife.

Sometimes I wish there was a sarcasm font. That was just a joke man. I would still attempt that in a fight though. I can take a bruised ass as trade for +100 d3adly that move would get.

**patfromlogan** · Posted On: 4/06/2010 4:00pm

Originally Posted by Osaka peach

I'm honestly very surprised by the sheer speed and non telegraphic way that guy delivered that spinning kick.

Awe, everyone who doesn't train karate feels the same way!

I'm actually impressed enough to facebook it to my instructor. We've been doing some spinning back drills and this is a good example. Note how he drops into a front stance (slo mo shows he lifts BOTH feet off the ground - he doesn't step back, but rather hops and slides both feet away from each other) at :07/:08 and is airborne in the actual kick is off the ground. Then has the skill balance to land well stanced.