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  1. ignatzami is offline
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     Style: Judo, BJJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by nohero View Post
    i think you've got a lot more work to do before calling anyone names. IJF remains to be checked, and his bjj black belt needs confirmation or refutation. upon receiving said, you still need to invite him to this thread to defend himself.

    it is entirely possible he let his membership lapse in USA judo because he's focusing instead on coaching and bjj, and therefore no longer appears in their database. he seems to have plenty of real fighters on his team. peter renik, the guy he claims to have gotten his judo bb from, is easy to find. why don't you contact him? this is your investigation.

    edit: ignatzami is faster than me. usjf/ijf checked.
    USJF came back with no one in their database with a last name of Zee, I wanted to check alternate spellings i.e. Mark Zee. Still waiting for an alternate spelling check from the USJA.

    I'm having trouble tracking down Peter Renik via Google, do you have a link?
    I do not aspire to be great, or even good, I hope to suck a little less then last class.
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    3/26/2010 2:05pm


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    USJA came back the same, no record of anyone with a last name of Zee
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    3/26/2010 2:11pm


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    E-mail sent to Mr. Zee

    Mr. Zee,

    My name is --- and I post on Bullshido.net under the handle ignatzami. Recently a thread was started questioning your credentials. As is standard procedure for Bullshido I am writing to ask you to come and join the discussion. I hope to hear from you soon.

    Bullshido Thread: http://www.bullshido.net/forums/show...=1#post2341617
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    Posted On:
    3/26/2010 2:13pm


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    Mr. Zee's stated credentials on the Gracie Barra Phoenix website.

    First Degree Black Belt
    Head Instructor of Gracie Barra Phoenix
    15 years of training experiance
    Bachelors in Exercise Science Arizona State University
    National Strength and Conditioning Association certified trainer
    First Degree Black Belt in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu
    USA Judo Black belt under 2 time Olympian Peter Renik
    Helped train numerous UFC and Pride veterans
    Trainer Program in Therapeutic Crisis De-Escalation Strategies Certified Cambridge University
    Instructor Certification in Adrenal Stress Response Self Defense Training
    I do not aspire to be great, or even good, I hope to suck a little less then last class.
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    Posted On:
    3/26/2010 2:29pm


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    all i've got right now is home address, no phone, no email. he's not at ASU anymore, it seems...
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    Posted On:
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    Oh, this is awkward.

    http://apps.supremecourt.az.gov/publicaccess/

    Enter his name and it's a mess: various petty charges, DUI, driving while license suspended for DUI, failure to appear. This last one is fairly bad; you need to show up for your court dates.

    These offenses are distributed over a few years, and their number and character suggests a man in a tailspin. No felonies at this point, but I think that may be the coming thing if he doesn't change his ways.

    I don't feel a lot of confidence in his unsupported word.
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    Posted On:
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     Style: TKD, BJJ

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    I found another previous student of Peter Reniks and am contacting him to attempt to get some contact info for Mr. Renik to see if I can verify Marc Zee's training with him.
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    Posted On:
    3/26/2010 4:58pm


     Style: BJJ, Libre, Street Boxing

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    I found this in Judo Info forum...notice it is dated 2005

    Posted 01 June 2005 - 05:42 AM
    Arizona Center of Mixed Martial Arts.
    1932 W. Aster Dr.
    602.299.4909.
    Marc Zee, club owner

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    Posted On:
    3/26/2010 8:34pm


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    Just sent the following to the Arizona State Rifle and Pistol Association:

    Mr. Biggs, Mr. Salazar,

    My name is --- and I am trying to get in contact with a Mr. Peter Renik. I am a member of Bullshido.net a martial arts consumer advocacy website. We are currently conducting an investigation into Mr. Marc Zee who is claiming to have received a Judo black belt from Mr. Renik. As part of Bullshido standard procedure we are trying to verify if this rank was in fact awarded by Mr. Renik.

    I found mention of Mr. Renik on your 2009 High-Power match results page. If by any chance either of you could pas this message on to Mr. Renik, or have him contact me directly it would be very appreciated.

    Many Thanks,
    ---
    ---@yahoo.com
    Match Results: http://www.asrpa.com/html/match_results.html

    PETER RENIK C F F 412-4 421-7 404-5 1237-16
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    Posted On:
    3/27/2010 9:53am


     Style: bjj

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    sent an email to gracie barra inviting them to the thread and asking them how they verified zee's credentials before making him an affiliate
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