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    tall guy o soto gari

    since i'm over 6 feet tall, when i do an o soto gari against someone shorter than me, would it be advisable for me to try to sweep both legs or just the one closest to me?

    i've caught both legs at the same time by accident, and my o soto was much stronger, but i'm not sure if this is something i should go for, or if it would hinder my throw.
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    As far as I can imagine what you're doing, wouldn't there be a risk of your balance being disrupted? as you'd have to step almost fully past uke alot of the time to deliberately hunt both legs
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    You want to do it "russian" if you are that tall. Get an over the back belt grip and bury them.

    Take one or both legs; no matter. I would go for the one, and if you get two its Christmas... ummm.... well Hanaka... throw him 11 times or is it 12 times?

    Just slam them ok?
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    depending on how long your legs are relative to your partner (and how far apart they are), sweeping both legs is a viable alternative. I think it turns into a different throw, though, in keeping with the technical semantics.

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    when i caught both legs before, it was against an ikkyu who was 5'6 and maybe 150-160. i'm 6'5 and about 215-220. so, in that sense, i guess it's try NOT getting both legs.
    and mark, it's 8 days of channuka, but i will remember the over the back belt grip.
    is grabbing an obi not a no no in judo?
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    As long as you don't hang on for too long (i think it's 30 seconds?), it's okay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by White Kimbo View Post
    when i caught both legs before, it was against an ikkyu who was 5'6 and maybe 150-160. i'm 6'5 and about 215-220. so, in that sense, i guess it's try NOT getting both legs.
    and mark, it's 8 days of channuka, but i will remember the over the back belt grip.
    is grabbing an obi not a no no in judo?
    Bite me monkey boy, I was in a hurry for the joke....

    You can grab it and attack, you can't grab it and hold on with no attack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conde Koma View Post
    As long as you don't hang on for too long (i think it's 30 seconds?), it's okay.
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    when you sweep both legs, it's called o soto guruma.

    o soto guruma doesn't happen very often, when it does, it is usually in the situation you've found yourself in; big/tall on small/short.

    and there is a combination that is very 'unhealthy' for the uke.... i am not sure how my description sounds with words, without the visuals,,,, but here it goes. first, go for just normal o soto gari, and once you are well into the throw, get your sweeping leg out and sweep the far leg.... it will get you a 'little' air..... the uke will a human origami and fold in half if you do it just right. i frigging hate this throw.

    and i LOVE belt grips. use them all the time. i alternate between belt grib and the gi fabric right above the belt to circumvent the 3-5 second rule. i actually hardly use collar grips anymore. it's either obi-sode or sode-sode.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtripp View Post
    You want to do it "russian" if you are that tall. Get an over the back belt grip and bury them.

    Take one or both legs; no matter. I would go for the one, and if you get two its Christmas... ummm.... well Hanaka... throw him 11 times or is it 12 times?

    Just slam them ok?
    Mark, does it matter where the second leg hits the opponent's? From memory, we were taught to reap high, i.e. a genuine reaping movement with our upper leg on theirs, not just hitting the bottom of the leg (as I was taught in Karate).
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