Fitness Factory In Irvine.

**ChenPengFi** · Posted On: 3/01/2010 2:09pm

Better yet, the text on the page was lifted from here:
http://www.turtlepress.com/articles/...tial_arts.aspx

**ChenPengFi** · Posted On: 3/01/2010 2:42pm

Looks like most of the text on the site is plagiarized.
Info here:
http://www.fitnessfactory.us/fitness-nutrition.html
is from this:
Amazon.com: Ultimate Fitness for Martial Arts: Sang H. Kim, Ultimate Fitness for Martials Arts: Movies & TV
with no citation that i can find.

**searcher66071** · Posted On: 3/01/2010 3:01pm

Originally Posted by Oldguyoutofshap

its too bad there is not a BBB for things like this.

There is. It is called Bullshido.

**Oldguyoutofshap** · Posted On: 3/01/2010 3:52pm

Originally Posted by searcher66071

There is. It is called Bullshido.

Well yeah but I mean in most business you can't plagiarize without financial repercussions.

It seems this guy isn't qualified to teach Muay Thai, Taekwondo or even lead a fitness class.

That's real disturbing, its like a doctor that just watched house MD.

Im going to e-mail this page to my friend so his wife unenrolls. Is there anyone else I should contact to report this type of fraud?

**ChenPengFi** · Posted On: 3/01/2010 3:59pm

Perhaps now would be the time to invite Mr. Armen K. himself to the thread.
I also find no record of him with
http://www.teamusa.org/
or
http://usa-taekwondo.us/

I looked at the http://www.afaa.com/ site but could not find a way to search for certificate holders.

**Oldguyoutofshap** · Posted On: 3/01/2010 8:07pm

Originally Posted by ChenPengFi

Perhaps now would be the time to invite Mr. Armen K. himself to the thread.
I also find no record of him with
http://www.teamusa.org/
or
http://usa-taekwondo.us/

I looked at the http://www.afaa.com/ site but could not find a way to search for certificate holders.

While its probably going to happen at some point, I'm not going to walk into someone's job and start calling them a fraud in front of people. This guys place is 5 minutes from my house! Someone capabale of lying about so much to so many people day in and day out is not someone I would want to deal with.

**ChenPengFi** · Posted On: 3/01/2010 8:46pm

Not a problem,

Mr. Armen Keledjian,
Some questions have arisen about your school and website.
A discussion was started here:
http://www.bullshido.net/forums/show....php?p=2320986
by a prospective student.
Please join in as your personal input would be valuable.
If you are unfamiliar with Bullshido it would be in your best interests to read the stickies.

With respect,
ChenPengFi.

I just sent this a few minutes ago.

**andrewa** · Posted On: 3/01/2010 9:12pm

My research shows that may also spell his last name as follows - Keledzhyan

(as opposed to Keledjian)

**waxeater** · Posted On: 3/01/2010 9:49pm

The IKBA is a legitimate organization with some very good fighters; if he was indeed a World Champion under the IKBA and can provide some sort of proof, I would imagine he's a very talented nak muay. The usual outlets (Google, YouTube) don't provide much information.

**ChenPengFi** · Posted On: 3/02/2010 2:31am

@andrewa, noted, thanks

To whom it may concern,
I would like to confirm an IKBA claim.
A prospective student made an inquiry here;
http://www.bullshido.net/forums/show....php?p=2320986
about an instructor that claims to be a "3 time IKBA World Champion."
Is Armen Keledjian (Keledzhyan?) a 3 time IKBA World Champion?
If true, the dates and details of the championships would be appreciated.
If this claim is false, could the IKBA make a public statement to reflect that?

Thank you for your time.
ChenPengFi

sent to IKBA