$76 to pass the guard.

**Beorn** · Posted On: 2/26/2010 3:22pm

so about the actual pass; is it just me, or would it be an incredible easy counter to get the back when the person passing switches his hips?

**tao.jonez** · Posted On: 2/26/2010 3:22pm

So yes for the $76 undefeatable guard pass? Or no because I can see it free by clicking the youtubes?

This is so confusing

**superninjagod** · Posted On: 2/26/2010 3:26pm

Originally Posted by Beorn

so about the actual pass; is it just me, or would it be an incredible easy counter to get the back when the person passing switches his hips?

Not really. First of all the underhook is there to block taking the back. Second when he switches his hips he puts pressure on the opponents leg and traps it there. Watch the Chim pass because it is very well explained. That being said I have never personally done this pass before, but I have seen the chim pass vid

**Zapruder** · Posted On: 2/26/2010 3:34pm

Originally Posted by Ka-Bar

ZERO respect for Irvin anymore.

100% agreed

Originally Posted by superninjagod

Yeah, and who gives a **** that he is the first to have a BB in Judo, Sambo and BJJ at the same time. What a jerk......:happy6::happy6:

Originally Posted by dokomoy

I know right? Who the hell does he think he is producing top notch competitors and solid instructionals? And using hyperbole to help sell copies? He ought to be ashamed!

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**Beorn** · Posted On: 2/26/2010 3:38pm

Originally Posted by superninjagod

Not really. First of all the underhook is there to block taking the back. Second when he switches his hips he puts pressure on the opponents leg and traps it there. Watch the Chim pass because it is very well explained. That being said I have never personally done this pass before, but I have seen the chim pass vid

it just seems to me that all the guy has to do is shuck the underhook and your back is there. If you have the underhook dug in tight that is all well and good, but if you are only applying pressure with your shoulder and the arm isn't buried, it seems like reversing from there would be easy. Just the $.02 of a guy who has been out of the game for several months, i could be way off base

**tao.jonez** · Posted On: 2/26/2010 3:39pm

Originally Posted by Beorn

so about the actual pass; is it just me, or would it be an incredible easy counter to get the back when the person passing switches his hips?

Uncle Skippy let me know about this last week. I took it to my instructor and worked on it. If you can flatten the guy's shoulders it works - but I rushed putting my knee through which put me in half-guard a lot.

Another problem was putting my weight up too high on the shoulders. I ended up getting bridged off and having to scramble.

It won't be my go-to pass when I have standing pass options but it's not a total dud either.

**superninjagod** · Posted On: 2/26/2010 3:50pm

Originally Posted by Beorn

it just seems to me that all the guy has to do is shuck the underhook and your back is there. If you have the underhook dug in tight that is all well and good, but if you are only applying pressure with your shoulder and the arm isn't buried, it seems like reversing from there would be easy. Just the $.02 of a guy who has been out of the game for several months, i could be way off base

If someone were shucking your underhook, you would have to bail balls on this pass, underhook is crucial and is never lost throughout the entire pass. Its just so easy that there is very little detail on it

**syberia** · Posted On: 2/26/2010 4:20pm

it just seems to me that all the guy has to do is shuck the underhook and your back is there.

Then make sure you dont lose the underhook. Every pass has a danger one way or the other if you do it incorrectly, thats why the technique is important. But we all know that.

I have never done this pass, i'm going to try it out later on. I'm sure i can find some unsuspecting soul to get me in guard...