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    Second vid is a classic drop seoi; man that was scary to see.
    "Out of every hundred men, ten shouldn't even be there, eighty are just targets, nine are the real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, for they make the battle. Ah, but the one, one is a warrior, and he will bring the others back." -- Hericletus, circa 500 BC

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    **** that girl has t3h de4dly fo' sho'.. has anyone everr pulled off katagaruma in mma?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMAMickey View Post
    **** that girl has t3h de4dly fo' sho'.. has anyone everr pulled off katagaruma in mma?
    Good question. I don't think I've ever seen fireman's carry in MMA. Too high of risk for too low of reward in my opinion. You screw up and you pretty much gave your opponent a free crucifix.

    Edit: nm on seeing fireman. Now i saw it. Failed miserably. I googled fireman carry mma and perfect example came up.

    Pride Gary GOODRIDGE VS Paul HERRERA K-1 Mix Fight - Video

    Goodridge vs. Herrera. Failed kataguruma into crucifix and bang bang elbow to head for KO.

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    Didn't joe stevenson throw nate diaz with a fireman's variation in their fight or is my brain playing tricks on me again?

    Also: Velasquez and Koscheck use judo style throws? Video proof please? (Anyone who starts babbling about Morote Gari is going to earch my lasting hatred.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMAMickey View Post
    **** that girl has t3h de4dly fo' sho'.. has anyone everr pulled off katagaruma in mma?
    Joe Lauzon pulled one off on Jeremy Stephens at UFC Fight Night 17.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Fake Macoy View Post
    Joe Lauzon pulled one off on Jeremy Stephens at UFC Fight Night 17.
    That was pretty sweet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vince Tortelli View Post
    Didn't joe stevenson throw nate diaz with a fireman's variation in their fight or is my brain playing tricks on me again?

    Also: Velasquez and Koscheck use judo style throws? Video proof please? (Anyone who starts babbling about Morote Gari is going to earch my lasting hatred.)
    http://www.mma-core.com/videos/_Nate...005356&tid=100
    Man, what a fantastic fight, thanks for reminding me. He does it once at about 3:20 in Round 2, then again at 4:39 and 4:09 of Round 3 (by the round clock) It looked more like a roll than an intentional throw, but that might be a matter of semantics.

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    That was surely not a kata garuma.. seriously whatever the hell that was it was just plain retarded

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vince Tortelli View Post
    Also: Velasquez and Koscheck use judo style throws? Video proof please?
    I should have been more clear - the philosophy of takedown to side control is what I was referring with AKA to as much as the Judo methods of achieving that goal. Others do the same, but Camarillo acts like he invented the idea and his camp does well with it.

    Obviously Kos and Velasquez rely very heavily on their wrestling and hulk-factor. I'd argue that they have been influenced by Camarillo's methods but they haven't "gone judoka".

    Morote gari? Japanese copied that from collegiate wrestlers. Duh.

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