Thread: combat hapkido discussion
2/19/2010 12:04pm, #11
Let's take Judo for example. Judo players train with, and compete against, other Judo players at full resistance. Your partner is trying to throw you while also trying to not be thrown. If I had to use Judo in a self defense situation I would be able to having used my art at full speed, full resistance. That's the definition of Aliveness. Aliveness makes an art useful for defense. No amount of self-defense, "for the streets", schlock will matter if you don't train properly.
Also, your website sucks.I do not aspire to be great, or even good, I hope to suck a little less then last class.
2/19/2010 12:29pm, #12
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Sparring ISN'T self defense. Sparring is a form of duel fighting. Two people agree to combat. In the street, this isn't so. People tend to sneak to attack in the street.Sparring has rules; self defense doesn't. As for being an expert in hapkido because I have a black belt, I never said that. But I do know about street fighting, and fighting in street clothes doing high kicks and fancy moves will only get your ass kicked...badly. I trained in san shou not because I was unhappy with hapkido or combat hapkido, but to expand on my martial knowledge; to sharpen and develop other skill sets. Combat is nothing without heart. I don't care who your teacher is, if you don't have the heart to defend yourself, all that training doesn't mean ****. And heart is something I have plenty of. I can tell already by your tone that you're a know-it-all. You assume that since someone trains in a style that you disagree with, they are automatically sheep. Well, I'm the wolf in sheep's clothing. I have the utmost faith in my skills. You and no one else can tell me different. Now, if you want to continue this line of conversation, you will have to do with someone else. I perfer to seek knowledge rather than try to prove my manhood in a martial art blog.
2/19/2010 12:31pm, #13
Resistance is more applicable to judging somethings effectiveness
I.E. You can grapple with out full speed but with full resistance.
The problem with some of the self defense techniques is you can't really practice them with fulls Resistance with out causing injury.
If you're not sparring and grappling with a reasonable element of randomness and resistance your not doing much besides just going through motions, regardless at the speed you do them.
2/19/2010 12:43pm, #14
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2/19/2010 12:48pm, #15
Moved to the KMA forum so, I don't get heavy handed.
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2/19/2010 12:53pm, #16
Heart, you can have all the heart you want but that doesn't matter if you don't have the skills, and tools, to fight. You gain those tools through sparring.
Do I know everything, no. Do I know more then you, yes.I do not aspire to be great, or even good, I hope to suck a little less then last class.
2/19/2010 12:57pm, #17
1) How to hit/throw/submit someone
2) How to not get hit/thrown/submitted
In Judo I'm doing my best to throw my partner while doing my best to not get thrown. That's what sparring teaches. Nothing you do teaches you either of those skills anywhere near as fast as sparring will.
Grappling, if I know how to fight on the ground I also know how to get up from the ground. If I have no idea how to grapple and I end up on the ground it's a mess. I am then depending on luck to save me. If I know how to grapple I can grapple, submit my opponent, or if I deem it a safer bet, stand back up.
You don't know what you're talking about, it's obvious, and it makes me sad on your behalf.I do not aspire to be great, or even good, I hope to suck a little less then last class.
2/19/2010 1:04pm, #18
I'll not say it's totally useless, because it does take a deal of skill to learn timing and entry of a person. Plus, in certain cases, people tend to fight the way they train. If you never used elbows, knees, hits to the throat while sparring, you might not do so in a real fight. Notice I said "might" I did alot of sparring in my youth and enjoyed it, but right now, I'm a little too old to be sparring.
Sparring isn't only about learning to attack by the way it's about conditioning yourself for when you get hit.
Again boxers are used to getting hit.
SO in a worse case scenario when they get hit they counter attack.
Yes on the street it's best not to get hit but we don't always get to choose the best case scenarios. Good sparring helps condition your fight or flight reflexes and autonomic response to high stress and painful situations.
Grappling is a good skill set to learn, and I agree, but I don't want to get into a grappling match in the street and get stomped out by his friends. But I agree that it is a good skill set to learn. I like your train of thought and I appreciate chatting with you.
Getting up from a bad situation,
Helps you beat bigger people
Throwing and tripping people.
Plus the "What if my opponent has friends" is a bit over played. If you are out numbered standing is only marginally better in that you can run away.
The other thing is gravity often means we don't necessarily get to choose if a fight goes to the ground or not.
And as far as age and resident sparring goes - as a 37 year old, yeah age is a bitch it just means you need to be smart about how you spar and grapple with and who you spar and grapple with.
2/19/2010 1:52pm, #19
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2/19/2010 4:55pm, #20I do not aspire to be great, or even good, I hope to suck a little less then last class.