3/22/2010 8:36am, #61
- I thought the stoppage was because Jones had one knee on the ground, which Vera couldn't have seen IMO, and not because of the kick itself.
I think Jones could maybe swallowed up the rules, and could have behaved like a sportsman.
I mean, it was not a foul like when Crocop was kicked in the balls over and over.
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3/22/2010 8:37am, #62
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One, if he chose to stand up and won, some people would be saying. "That fucker doesn't want to be on the ground and he took advantage by demanding to stand up."
Two, intention has no relevance. I have never heard a ref say, "sure he thumbed him in the eye and kick him in the nutsack but I didn't stop it because it wasn't intentional."
At first I thought he shouldn't have asked his preference but I guess it is considered reparation for the injured party.
Personally, I prefer the original rules:
1. No Biting
2. No Fish-hooking
3. No Eye-gouging
If someone is one you...kick them the **** off!
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Originally Posted by Dilbert
3/22/2010 9:22am, #63
Hehe, I see you have a point there, and I think we agree there.
I think the rules are a big problem right now, since in the US they apparently differ from state to state. For example, I got likewise upset when Jones was disqualified against Hamill because of - what?! Because MMA judges in Nevada apparently don't like black people?!
I think it was a shame because Jones could have taken the win even so, and that stoppage overshadows another very good performance of his.
I wonder if he could be the one to dethrone Machida if he continues like this.
3/22/2010 9:49am, #64
For example, I got likewise upset when Jones was disqualified against Hamill because of - what?! Because MMA judges in Nevada apparently don't like black people?!
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3/22/2010 9:59am, #65
Of course. Now, without all irony, I thought it was a shame.
Refs shouldn't decide fights.
3/22/2010 11:36am, #66
Raf you sound like a whiney douche.
Dude it's a fight, your opponent is trying to hurt you, fucking protect your self.
No kicks to the head when you're on your back is stupid fucking rule anyway.
3/22/2010 11:45am, #67
The rule is, don't upkick people if they have one or more knees on the ground. Vera violated the rule, intentionally or not. I felt that the restarted IN THE SAME POSITION was entirely fair. It's where you started when the foul happened, why not start back there? Why would you REWARD Vera with a free standup for violating the rules? The fair and sportsmanlike thing is to start back in the same position you were in prior to the foul. Jones could have just clutched his face, fell on the ground screaming, and took the DQ victory for being unable to continue due to an illegal blow. But he didn't. So quit your bitching you *****.
3/22/2010 11:50am, #68
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Didn't Okami bow out when he ate that upkick from Silva? Or was he knocked out? I can't remember.
3/22/2010 11:52am, #69
...Or they could just have bled it out and kept on fighting.
Hey, but I am not complaining. At least this UFC card had some KOs.
3/22/2010 11:56am, #70
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I didn't even realize the upkick was illegal till they stopped it. Pretty lame rule for "as real as it gets" IMO. Totally makes me want to create my troll account ChunTillTheDeathOfMeYo and troll the **** out of all of you.
And Squerlli I agree, GG makes me sad. I feel like he's probably the most underrated fighter in the UFC. Fans have written him off as just a gatekeepr, but he's got a great skillset and pretty much every fight he's lost he was competitive in & could've won if things played out just a little differently (the fight with Carwin being a prime example).
I like Dos Santos too though which reduced the sting.