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  1. nysanda is online now

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    If you don't know me, you probably assume a lot of things. Just to be clear, I spent 16 years with my teacher, he did not speak English, so I spent 7 days a week speaking and translating for him in Chinese (Cantonese). I was married to a Shanghaiese woman and spoke Cantonese at home and Mandarin with my in-laws (who I lived with for 3 years). I have a master's degree in East Asian Studies / Chinese hisotry and passed GWU's level three chinese exam. Yeah, I've been to China also.

    For example, the "ren" radical you keep saying is "man" is NOT male, it is a person (as opposed to insect, animal, fish, etc). There are radicals for male and female as well. The "fu" in sifu isn't male based upon the radical, it is male based upon what the character acutally means! It means "father". It isn't a character that just has a "male radical", the entire character just screams "MAN"!

    Lao Shih (Lo Si) the lo can mean "old" but it can also mean respected or venerable, or as a confucian place holder of sorts. So Lo Si means a respected (ie older) teacher.

    What you are calling "horse" is the question particle, created to preserve a sound, but we know it isn't "horse" but the preservation of the sound due to the radical.

    No offense, but you seem to have a very surface understanding of how this works? Am I wrong? Do you know how the dictionary works? How the radicals work? How characters are put together (the orders)?

    It' s double talk to say that "fu" isn't MALE, it means FATHER
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    Quote Originally Posted by lkfmdc View Post
    If you don't know me............ Yeah, I've been to China also.

    So you have had access to the answer the whole time. Why are you messing with me then? I think your reply is nit picking and you dont understand what I said at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by lkfmdc View Post
    Lao Shih (Lo Si) the lo can mean "old" but it can also mean respected or venerable, or as a confucian place holder of sorts. So Lo Si means a respected (ie older) teacher.


    You admit characters can mean different things?

    Quote Originally Posted by lkfmdc View Post
    What you are calling "horse" is the question particle, created to preserve a sound, but we know it isn't "horse" but the preservation of the sound due to the radical.


    No sir, I mean the actual word for horse I have two examples across two post.

    Quote Originally Posted by lkfmdc View Post
    No offense, but you seem to have a very surface understanding of how this works? Am I wrong? Do you know how the dictionary works? How the radicals work? How characters are put together (the orders)?


    I think my biggest short coming is my ability to present my case to you.

    Quote Originally Posted by lkfmdc View Post
    It' s double talk to say that "fu" isn't MALE, it means FATHER


    Dui! Fu, FuQin de Fu is father, you are correct and I sight your previous quote on dictionary and how to string characters together as evidence that when you combine things in certain ways it changes the meaning.

    I cannot debate you further as you might have more knowledge than myself so I ask you a question.

    Why does this mean rabies? Won’t other non dogs take offence that dog is in that word? Its part of the word not a radical. Do you think you can associate rabies with a dog and that’s why? Maybe you can associate how the ancient Chinese people associate father with a mentor figure?
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    Posted On:
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    According to lkfmdc, all cockroaches are female in Spanish speaking countries, too. However, in English countries, they are male because there's a 'cock' in the word.
    Calm down, it's only ones and zeros.

    "Your calm and professional manner of response is really draining all the fun out of this. Can you reply more like Dr. Fagbot or something? Call me some names, mention some sand in my vagina or something of the sort. You can't expect me to come up with reasonable arguments man!" -- MaverickZ

    "Tom Kagan spins in his grave and the fucking guy isn't even dead yet." -- Snake Plissken

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    Quote Originally Posted by Punisher View Post
    It might be a case of semantics here, but if I walked into a martial arts school in America, owned and operated by a female, and said "Hi, you must me the instructer's wife" I would expect to be punched.
    What's wrong with asking for the instructor in English?

    You are in America. Unless you are a native Chinese
    speaker & the instructor is Chinese, what's the problem?

    Besides, I thought a sifu is addressed as 'sifu' only by
    his/her students. [ex: I would call my sifu, "sifu" but, you
    would call him, "Mr. Sun" or "master" - he is not your sifu.]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meex View Post
    Besides, I thought a sifu is addressed as 'sifu' only by
    his/her students. [ex: I would call my sifu, "sifu" but, you
    would call him, "Mr. Sun" or "master" - he is not your sifu.]
    My understanding of that is that he's a sifu, whether or not he's your sifu, so you still use the title. If you are not a student in that style, you don't use the other titles in the family tree (sigung, sihing, etc.) because you are outside of that family, and therefore they have no relation to you.

    And as a side note, referring to a living person as sijo is absurd.
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    From a book from the '80's collecting dust in my garage:

    male title Translation corresponding female title

    si-jo system founder si-jo
    si-tai gung grandmaster si-tai poo
    si-gung master si-poo
    si-bok senior instructor si-di goo
    si-fu instructor si-fu
    si-suk junior instructor si-goo mui
    si-hing older classmate si-je
    si-di younger classmate si-mui
    sing-san(husband) [mate outside of art] si-mo(wife)

    The source is "Shaolin Fighting Theories & Concepts" Unique Publications Inc., Douglas L. Wong, 1982, pages 16-17. Yes the title does contain the word Shaolin so let the buyer beware.
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    Sifu or Simu

    I trained with a woman Tai Chi master. When I called her Simu, she corrected me and told me she is Sifu. She went on to explain that Simu is the Sifu's wife.
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by yeticrane View Post
    I trained with a woman Tai Chi master. When I called her Simu, she corrected me and told me she is Sifu. She went on to explain that Simu is the Sifu's wife.
    It depends on where you're from & the culture of the individual art.
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by DelPiero1 View Post
    From a book from the '80's collecting dust in my garage:

    male title Translation corresponding female title

    si-jo system founder si-jo
    si-tai gung grandmaster si-tai poo
    si-gung master si-poo
    si-bok senior instructor si-di goo
    si-fu instructor si-fu
    si-suk junior instructor si-goo mui
    si-hing older classmate si-je
    si-di younger classmate si-mui
    sing-san(husband) [mate outside of art] si-mo(wife)

    The source is "Shaolin Fighting Theories & Concepts" Unique Publications Inc., Douglas L. Wong, 1982, pages 16-17. Yes the title does contain the word Shaolin so let the buyer beware.
    LOL, I had that book.
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ho Homega View Post
    LOL, I had that book.
    Oh yeah I forgot to mention, the titles aren't just for chinese martial arts. For example, a hot Latina instructor is addressed as si-mamita. See page 18.
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