Fake Navy Seal Annville KY Kenpo School

**Rock Ape** · Posted On: 2/15/2010 1:54pm

Kentucky Medic,

Please check your email, thx.

**Kentucky Medic** · Posted On: 2/15/2010 2:43pm

Dave Resent Information with an attachment to your email.

**Kentucky Medic** · Posted On: 2/15/2010 2:47pm

Will do

**Rock Ape** · Posted On: 2/15/2010 2:51pm

Cheers, sorry for the mail issue.

**Don Gwinn** · Posted On: 2/15/2010 6:53pm

No shock here:

Dear Mr. Gwinn,

Thank you for contacting us. We have never heard of Chris Holmes. We
manufacture components for DoD weapon systems, and do not conduct martial
art training of any kind.
I hope this information clears things up.

Best regards,

Jeff Cahill
President
TangoDown Inc
4720 N. La Cholla Blvd
Suite #180
Tucson, AZ 85705
520.888.3376 p
520.888.3387 f
www.tangodown.com

**Kentucky Medic** · Posted On: 2/17/2010 9:26am

I have discovered that Mr. Holmes holds his classes in Annville on Tue. Thurs, and Saturday at 6pm.

**AMF** · Posted On: 2/17/2010 9:57am

Are you planning on visiting him?

If so, ask him when he made Chief Petty Officer, as in what was his rate and year he made it.

I can verify pretty quick if he is telling the truth or not based on his rate and year he made it.

**Kentucky Medic** · Posted On: 2/17/2010 2:29pm

I stopped to see Will Schneider today the owner of Elite Martial Arts in London, Ky where Chris Holmes trained and showed up in naval uniiform sometime ago.
Will has sold his school to Mr. Jeff Turner of Somerset KY. I do have contact information for will but donot wish to post on an open forum. I will forward to Hugo here on the forum.
To answer the above post. Mr. Holmes attempted to join the Kentucky Army National Guard. When I talked to the National Guard Recruiter in London, KY. He informed me at that time that Mr. Holmes Navy Service showed his Rank and Grade as Gunners Mate. If my memory isnt failing me I believe he said Gunners Mate 3rd. I am unfamiliar witht the Naval Service Rank and Grade structure. I served in a different service.

**AMF** · Posted On: 2/17/2010 2:58pm

I will take a look.

Any idea when this was? A year time-frame as to when would be helpful but not needed.

FYI a GM3 is an E-4, so he might be impersonating a Chief Petty Officer.

**Kentucky Medic** · Posted On: 2/17/2010 3:06pm

The First time I met Chris Holmes was Feb. 2008 As I recall he stated he served 8 years in the Navy as a SEAL. I believe he attempted to join the Kentucky Army National Guard in the Summer of 2009. He may have left Naval Service in 2003. Oh one other thing I remember the Kentucky Army National Guard Recruiter told me he would need a waiver to join the Guard. I believe he had an RE Code of 3 which would necessitate a waiver?
I know in the Service that I served in an RE Code of 3 or 4 meant a bar to re-enlist, discipilary action or Court Martial. I donot know if the RE Codes are the same for the Navy.