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  1. sambosteve is offline
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    MMA and the Christian Right - NY Times - 2/1/10

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/02/us....html?emc=eta1

    Interesting article on the rise of popularity of MMA within evangelical churches
    One of the best Bullshido investigations ever written: http://www.bullshido.org/David_Kujawski_Investigation

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    This type of thing totally creeps me out, and is akin to worrying reports during the W. era that Evangelicals were actively proselytizing in military academies and on base - a kind of C21st version of the "muscular Christianity" of the C19th that was one of the many ideological foundations underpinning British imperialism.

    But if and when I can manage to momentarily check my liberal aversion to fundamentalism of any stripe, I suppose I can see that it's not so different from church groups in predominantly minority neighborhoods running boxing programs to keep kids off the street.

    Overall, however, yuck.
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    Jesus did TOO tap!
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    Gross. Once again, religion just kind of makes everything worse.
    I'd really like to see someone catch one of these evangelical fighters in a crucifix and shout "Where is your god now!?"
    That would make me smile.
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    “Win or lose, we represent Jesus,” How, exactly? By beating or choking another man unconscious?

    I have no problem with any church making fight teams but using MMA as a metaphor for Jesus' struggle is just crass. They're trying to excuse themselves for wanting to punch guys in the face.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kovacs View Post
    “Win or lose, we represent Jesus,” How, exactly? By beating or choking another man unconscious?

    I have no problem with any church making fight teams but using MMA as a metaphor for Jesus' struggle is just crass. They're trying to excuse themselves for wanting to punch guys in the face.
    I think it's more that they're wanting to sell their product to as many people as possible by any means they can think of.
    Next we'll see Cooking Meth for Jesus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivington View Post
    Jesus did TOO tap!
    Was it a verbal tap? his hands and feet were kinda occupied....
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    I liked the last paragraph about the guy who lost, and thus decided to go out and drink and party instead of going back to church.

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    It’s impossible for me not to be reminded of this quote. Anyone recognise it?
    Quote Originally Posted by A bad person
    My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers […] God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter.
    [ petterhaggholm.net | blog | essays ]
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    Ann Coulter's previous incarnation as an Austrian housepainter.
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