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  1. Shug is offline

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    How is Judo's groundgame?

    I'm curious, because its an aspect I've never covered before that I'd like to learn a bit about. There is a Judo school about 15 minutes from my TKD place, and I was thinking about taking it up on the weekends. In the next year, I'll probably pull a complete 180 from what I've been practicing in the last couple of years, and go straight to CMA and grappling.

    Can anyone give me an idea? I've been looking at different sites for information on how specifically they train, but it all seems to be throws and takedowns (not to say that wouldn't be useful, but I already know a good bit of that from Hapkido)
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    Olympic Judo is about pinning more than getting the sub.
    Combat judo is ALL about subs and chokes.
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    you may "think" you got throws from hapkido, but try applying them in randori at the judo school and i think you might find something out, judo has got great ground game!, just remember position before submission, if you cant pin a guy , you aint gonna tap him. just my opinion respectfully submitted, mc
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    Appreciated ^_^
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    Remember it also depends on the school. Judo technically has all the same moves as BJJ they just stress throws more. And the different competition rules create different priorities.

    You may be able to find a school that does a lot of Ne-wazaa (ground work). If you do you will get everything you need.
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    How much groundwork is practiced depends on the school. Some have only a basic ground game, some have a 50/50 or more ground/ standup ratio.
    The techniques are pretty much the same as in BJJ, but the focus is different due to different rules. As Ronin pointed out, in sports judo, the focus is on pins. A 25-second pin wins the match, period. Accordingly, there's less emphasis on getting a submission on top of the pin, and more emphasis on escaping the pin FAST. Also, when in danger, judoka tend to turn to their knees and turtle up - back mount does not count as a pin, for whatever reason - and techniques for attacking and turning over a turtled opponent are practiced. Since the referee stands up the fighters if the ground game stalls, less emphasis is placed on working from the guard (which requires a good deal of patience).
    Some clubs do ground randori (rolling) that doesn't worry about these rules, others don't.
    There are no wrong threats, only wrong answers. (Strategy game truism)
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    Judo's ground game is similar to BJJ but not as specialized as BJJ (with the exception of Kosen). Judo obviously focus more on the stand up throwing apsect.
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    go to thhe school and talk to the instructor, tell him that you are very interested in newaza and ask him how much get's done on average, as long as it's 20% or more i would join and than make it a point to try to train outside of formal class with the instructor or some of his top students focusing on groundwork.
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    It all depends on the dojo.
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