2/03/2010 8:01pm, #31
Also, diesel_tke, I'm not defending ballet or yoga as self-defense (which Liam obviously wasn't saying in the first place; he, like several others in this thread, was suggesting conditioning and physical training of a non-combat nature). But you're the guy in this thread recommending learning from DVDs.
Just sayin'.What a disgrace it is for a man to grow old without ever seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable. -Xenophon's Socrates
2/03/2010 9:27pm, #32
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Didn't Evan Tanner claim he learned BJJ from Gracie Instructional DVDs when he first entered the Octogon?
If it worked for Tanner.... (Though he was also a high school wrestling champ)
2/03/2010 10:32pm, #33
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2/04/2010 2:59pm, #34
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2/04/2010 3:50pm, #35
Here's a possiblity for you:
Looks like the guy trains with Renzo Gracie NH but he's only a Blue Belt.
There's a Rigan Machado Purple belt up there too:
Other places in the area without websites:
Powerhouse Boxing and Kickboxing
Once you move up there do some visits and maybe you'll find something.
2/04/2010 4:35pm, #36
Really? I could have swore I said to get a heavy bag and start doing some kickboxing on there. And I stand by that over learning yoga, for fitness or for learning to defend yourself when there is no other option.
You put someone who has been doing the bas rutten CDs for a year with someone who has been doing yoga for a year, in the ring. You think the yoga guy wins? If so, good for you. Personally, I don't think so.
2/05/2010 11:54am, #37
2/06/2010 11:14am, #38
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Diesel--for the third time, nobody was saying that yoga is a way to learn to fight. He was saying that in the absence of fighting instruction, maybe one should focus on other physical skills. You are saying that in the absence of fighting instruction, one should learn from DVDs.
I think learning from DVDs is like kata: Yes, it can be done productively. But the overwhelming majority of people don't do it productively, and the likely result of doing it is negative.What a disgrace it is for a man to grow old without ever seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable. -Xenophon's Socrates
2/06/2010 12:12pm, #39
Swimming."We often joke -- and we really wish it were a joke -- that you will only encounter two basic problems with your 'self-defense' training.
1) That it doesn't work
2) That it does work"
2/06/2010 12:18pm, #40
I understand what you are saying. I just don't agree. You get a heavy bag and learn some good combos from the bas rutten CDs and you will get in some pretty good shape. Learn to throw a punch properly, learn to do combos while keeping your hands up, and learn to turn your hips over properly when throwing kicks. You do those things and do the combos from the CDs. That is a VERY good work out plus you are learning some basics that will benifit you if you get into a fight. You are also getting to practice distance and movement around the bag if you do it right.
If you are wanting fight fitness, use the all around CD. Where he throws sprawls, pushups, and kickboxing combos into the mix. 30 minutes of that will put you in better fight shape than yoga will.
I just think if he wanted to talk about fitness then he should have posted into the fitness forum. He would get some good advice. There are a lot of people on here who have used the bas rutten cds to suppliment their kickboxing training. I have used them for years. You should try them before you completely discount them. Obviously he could learn some bad habits which could be corrected if he went to a teacher every once in a while.