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    ^^ Piss off.
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    Apart from the inflammation in Brock's intestines, the most inflammatory items are the news headlines and how the articles summarized his interviews.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gr81disp View Post
    1. Ayn Rand

    2. Marx philosophy is completely based on science fiction, namely that somebody can be motivated to devote 100% of their effort to help faceless masses and not see any personal gain from it. Or are you one of those who think the only reason socialism hasn't worked is because the right people haven't tried it yet?
    Most democracies owe their current structures to the Second International, LSI and Socialist International and are thus, examples of Marx's direct legacy (the Comintern is actually a split off from this tree of Marxism). UK Labour is an example. People who don't know this are too stupid to talk about politics in any meaningful sense, and their opinions should not be taken seriously.
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    I'm sure Brock's medical records are entwined with a rich oral tradition -- well, an cyclical oral and injected tradition -- that loses its magic when you can't throw a fat wad of cash at a gubmint doctor to participate in said legend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eyebeams View Post
    Most democracies owe their current structures to the Second International, LSI and Socialist International and are thus, examples of Marx's direct legacy
    ... say what?

    More specifically, explain how something like the Second International can create democratic institutions that were in place well before it was formed?
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    Downstreet on the flip-flop, timepants.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRuss View Post
    ... say what?
    More specifically, explain how something like the Second International can create democratic institutions that were in place well before it was formed?
    Why should I explain a straw man? Certainly, the rise of democratic control of labour standards in Western Europe and from there, the rest of the world, is largely due to Marxist efforts.

    The SI-descended democratic socialism practiced by the majority of democracies is the high percentage method of state politics. Randroids and Libertarians are poliLARPers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eyebeams View Post
    Why should I explain a straw man? Certainly, the rise of democratic control of labour standards in Western Europe and from there, the rest of the world, is largely due to Marxist efforts.
    I'll see your "straw man" and raise you a set of moving goalposts, because that's not what you said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gr81disp View Post
    1. Ayn Rand

    2. Ayn Rand Ayn Rand Ayn Rand Ayn Rand Ayn Rand.
    You don't say.
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    "PoliLARPers" is the perfect term. Here's an interesting article based on two recent Rand biographies from Slate:

    http://www.slate.com/id/2233966/
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    Ah, even when I'm dry for ideas on doing actual work, BS provides me with a means to continue to run my mouth until I think of something useful.

    Should I start with how even the whole "A is A" thing is based in fallacy or the more topical fact that ultimately Brock was cured by changing his diet to something healthy, which came from a nutritionist in Bismark and was contrary to what they said at the pinnacle of American health care, the Mayo Clinic?
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