Jackie Chan Speaks on MMA

**Hooded Justice** · Posted On: 1/20/2010 10:33pm

Originally Posted by Eagle

I would have to say that Jackie is coming at the martial arts from a completely different mindset than the MMA crowd. Some still do practice the mysticism for mysticisms sake. Cant say good or bad, just different goals.

He said nothing having to do with mysticism. Like I said he basically stated a preference of kickboxing rules over MMA rules. All his MA training has been in stand up arts. He is a (hollywood) striker. And if you don't know grappling and judging from the abundance of CMA striking arts and dearth of CMA ground grappling arts then the ideas that he expressed are entirely logical.

**thatrugbyguy** · Posted On: 1/20/2010 10:36pm

Originally Posted by bdang

What are you guys talking about?
Jackie Chan just saids you shouldn't hit people when they're down, theres no honour or respect in that. Thats it! Nothing about it being too violent.

He said that martial arts doesn't involve hitting someone while they are down and implied that a MMA fighter who employs GNP is not a respectful person. Both of those statements are extremely stupid, demonstrably counter-factual, and in the case of the latter, disrespectful itself.

And yes, he does say that MMA matches that take place in a cage are "too violent".

**bdang** · Posted On: 1/20/2010 10:45pm

Ah yeah... sorry my mistake - he does say its too violent. To which I say "MMA is not too violent, its violence is just about right".

I guess his idea of fighting and martial arts is not about hitting people when they're down - I guess he doesn't know that alot of fighters are at their best when they're on their back (BJJ players).

**thatrugbyguy** · Posted On: 1/20/2010 10:51pm

Or that anything deserving of the name "martial art" has probably highly encouraged hitting someone when they were down at some point in its history.

**DdlR** · Posted On: 1/20/2010 10:59pm

I really think he's talking about the morality of what the rules allow, not about kickboxing vs. grappling. Different cultures have very different expectations about what is ethical in combat sports vs. actual warfare or life-or-death self defense.

Case in point: when amateur boxing was introduced to Japan in the late 1800s, it was eagerly taken up by university students but in a highly modified form because intentionally bloodying someone's nose *as sport* was considered highly disrespectful in Japanese culture.

**DunkelAnanas** · Posted On: 1/20/2010 11:05pm

Originally Posted by karma2343

I think part of it is in the way the sport is portrayed. The cage, the imagery on the apparel, the tough guy audience often found by UFC, etc really contribute to an image more violent than the sport actually is.

^^^This times infinity. I can't stand a lot of the imagery of the UFC.

Regarding Mr. Chan's view of UFC: if the "fighting spirit" means not training for one of the most common situations to happen in a fight, than I do not care for fighting spirit. Or most of his recent movies.

**3moose1** · Posted On: 1/21/2010 1:00am

Originally Posted by thatrugbyguy

Theater performer thinks he is more in tune with what martial arts is about than MMA fighters...right.
You're cool and all Jackie, but you really need to STFU.

Damn, you're a ******.

Can't homeboy have an opinion? ****, people asked the dude's opinion, and the ninja gave it to them. ****, get off his jock, is he supposed to come give you complimentary blow jobs?

Jesus crispies, man, stop being a ******.

<333 lol.

**thatrugbyguy** · Posted On: 1/21/2010 1:03am

Originally Posted by 3moose1

Damn, you're a ******.

Can't homeboy have an opinion? ****, people asked the dude's opinion, and the ninja gave it to them. ****, get off his jock, is he supposed to come give you complimentary blow jobs?

I dunno, if he wore one of those jap school girls outfits I might like that.