1/21/2010 3:14pm, #11
boards.ie got KO'd this morning, so you can't see this, but the seminar he's giving in Ireland is on tomorrow and the first notice they put up was on Wednesday (I think).
I don't know how significant that is, but maybe they couldn't get enough numbers from their own org to make the seminar worthwhile, so they changed the description to bring in a wider audience.
1/21/2010 4:54pm, #12
Ok, I got a response back from Mr. Fitzpatrick. First, forgive the spelling errors, he sent it from his blackberry, so I don't hold them against him. I'll post the original text he sent and then clean it up some.
Here is my original email:
Originally Posted by Kintanon
Originally Posted by Jason Fitzpatrick
Originally Posted by Jason Fitzpatrick Editted
1/21/2010 5:04pm, #13
As jnp pointed out, the bjj.org archive did not have any mention of him. I can't find any reference to him anywhere outside of Jason's mentions. It was mentioned above that there is a Judo reference, but nothing in terms of BJJ. A 6th degree BB in BJJ would be mentioned somewhere, anywhere.
Does Jason know who Mr Barbosa got his BB from? Did the Gracies rank him?
Jason may be in the strange situation in which his instructor was not certified to hand out a black belt in BJJ but Jason was unaware of this.
1/21/2010 5:38pm, #14
I don't think he actually stated that Mr. Barbosa (My bad on that one), was a 6th degree in BJJ. I think that reference was to his Traditional JJ instructor or the Goshin instructor.
1/21/2010 7:37pm, #15
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I wish I was just handed a BJJ black belt from some random guy for learning some techniques and tapping out some judo and "ju jitsu" guys...
Then I could be famous on MABS just like this! Yippeeeee
To fight and conquer in all your battles is not supreme excellence;
Supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance without spilling your Guinness.
Sun "Fu Man JhooJits" Tzu, the Art of War & Guinness
1/21/2010 8:58pm, #16
Logically, it would seem prudent to try to find other students of Mr. Barbados so that they might independently verify Mr. Fitzpatrick's claims.
1/21/2010 9:00pm, #17
Or to at least find Mr. Barbados instructor, which I've been unable to do.
1/22/2010 1:00am, #18
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1/22/2010 9:39am, #19
This smells like Matt Morton all over again.
As for Goshin Jiu Jitsu, is that very similar to the self-defence Kata in Kodokan Judo?
EDIT: Found a Video of Goshin JJ at work.
YouTube- Goshin Jujitsu self-defense techniques
And here is the Goshin Jitsu No Kata.
YouTube- KODOKAN GOSHIN JUTSU NO KATAI feel like you eye-bawlin' me, dawg!
1/22/2010 9:51am, #20
Goshin Ju Jutsu just means "Self-Defense" Ju Jutsu.
in Korea it's Hoshin Sul.
The schoolname or style in front of the Goshin Ju Jutsu is the important part.
example: Kodokan Goshin Ju Jutsu or Takeda-Ryu Goshin Ju Jutsu.
In the best case it's an equivalent of (sport)-Ju Jutsu without the competition. In the worst case it are some one-two- or three steps.Originally Posted by Jiujitsu77Originally Posted by HumanzeeOriginally Posted by jk55299 on Keysi Fighting Method