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  1. Conde Koma is offline
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    I said I hadn't read it, it's the first thing that came up when I searched "Hand Conditioning."
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    Quote Originally Posted by devilboy7778 View Post
    Does hardening your bones increase your chance in getting arthritis or any other various types of bone deficiency. By hardening I am mostly referring to how Muay Thai fighters kick trees and what not, it seems like there should be some probably with their legs when they are older.:icescream
    There are no Hardening Bones, you train with makiwara or whatelse, just to thick the tissue aroung the bones, make it less in pain, but your bones is still bones. There are some problem if you doing a mistake training, some problem cause by tear of your joint or hurt your ligaments.
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    actually you can harden bones by weight baring exercises and hitting bags
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMAMickey View Post
    actually you can harden bones by weight baring exercises and hitting bags
    I was wondering about those fist push ups that many martial arts recommends doing. I know JKD recommends doing it to make your hand sturdier and reduce the risk of injury, but funny enough boxing coaches I've known never mentionned this. Maybe it doesn't harden the knuckles any more than just hitting the heavy bag after all. :read2:
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    Quote Originally Posted by devilboy7778 View Post
    Oh thanks for that.
    Another question on the subject is like when martial artists punch in like buckets of sand to harden their hands there have been stories of them having arthritis due to that training. All word of mouth but still curious.
    people who engage in poor training practices generally suffer for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by devilboy7778 View Post
    Does hardening your bones increase your chance in getting arthritis or any other various types of bone deficiency. By hardening I am mostly referring to how Muay Thai fighters kick trees and what not, it seems like there should be some probably with their legs when they are older.:icescream
    First off Bone Hardening has nothing to do with arthritis. Arthritis is disease of the joint usually due to compression of the joint.

    So when a MT guy kicks a tree it puts more of a sheer force through the knee, not compression. However a runner will put alot of compression through their joint.

    With punching, alot of the compression forces cause the arthritis (broken hands dont' help either)

    Hope that helps
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    Quote Originally Posted by Osaka peach View Post
    I was wondering about those fist push ups that many martial arts recommends doing. I know JKD recommends doing it to make your hand sturdier and reduce the risk of injury, but funny enough boxing coaches I've known never mentionned this. Maybe it doesn't harden the knuckles any more than just hitting the heavy bag after all. :read2:
    no. its because we wrap our hands and put them in great squashy boxing gloves like little bundles of joy.. as JKD is for the lava, HIV infected streets it requires conditioning, which still won't save your hand if you connect wrong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conde Koma View Post
    Hand Conditioning: Iron Palm, Wrapping of the hands, Bag Gloves?? - No BS MMA and Martial Arts

    I haven't read the thing, but I'm assuming it should answer some of your questions. The search function is a wonderful thing.
    this was a good thread, actually.

    Where is the proof that 'Bone Conditioning' isn't BS? - No BS MMA and Martial Arts
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    Seems to me that for taking impact, you'd actually want your bones to be more flexible than harder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CodosDePiedra View Post
    Seems to me that for taking impact, you'd actually want your bones to be more flexible than harder.

    Except that there is no way to stretch bones and make them more flexible
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