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    Suprised nobody posted this 1979 event yet:
    YouTube- Godfather's of MMA (Mixed Martial Arts in Pittsburgh -1979)

    I listed to all the original commentary. It was called "Battle of the Brawlers" by the ring announcer. The news anchor called it "organized, legalized street fighting".

    No mention of anything "mixed"
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    Quote Originally Posted by sambosteve View Post
    Suprised nobody posted this 1979 event yet:
    YouTube- Godfather's of MMA (Mixed Martial Arts in Pittsburgh -1979)

    I listed to all the original commentary. It was called "Battle of the Brawlers" by the ring announcer. The new anchor called it "organized, legalized street fighting".
    I thought about bringing it up, but couldn't find anything relevant to the term itself. P.S. Didn't your coach fight in that?


    Don't foget these. It seems the second event doubled as the original auditions for the Villiage People.

    Edit: Just watched the vid again. "Nope. A little blood never hurt anybody." God bless the working class. And the 1970's. I miss 'em both.










    No mention of anything "mixed"
    I suspect that is because the matches aren't mixed. Mixed matches in combat sports traditionaly meant ones in which competitors from two distinct groups were allowed to compete against one another, as in (for example)

    * Black and White boxers when the sport was mostly segregated
    * Male and Female boxers
    * or (yes really) midget wrestlers and full sized people

    Pro wrestling also has/had "Martial Arts" matches (whatever they are). If one were to have a match in the squared circle where a (pro) wrestler was pitted against a non wrestler in a "Martial Arts Match", I suspect the traditional name for it would be either a "Mixed Match Martial Arts" bout or a "Mixed Martial Arts" bout.

    I need to ask someone who really know old school pro wrasslin'
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    My coach? No. He was not even in the US.

    Found this 1983 PA Legislative journal regarding the PA athletic code...a bill which provides for penatlies for holding "battle of the brawlers" events, which were prohibited. Page 1314

    http://www.legis.state.pa.us/WU01/LI...0/19830928.pdf
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    Several people have asked why I care about this topic. For one thing, I am tired of listening to people make stupid arguments that let the definition of "MMA" define the parameters of the sport. Nonsense like "Bruce Lee mixed arts and invented MMA!". Ask folks where it says that anyone actually has to mix anything and you will invariably get a reply like "Dude, its called Mixed Martial Arts for a reason..."

    Yes, but which reason?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sambosteve View Post
    My coach? No. He was not even in the US.

    Found this 1983 PA Legislative journal regarding the PA athletic code...a bill which provides for penatlies for holding "battle of the brawlers" events, which were prohibited. Page 1314

    http://www.legis.state.pa.us/WU01/LI...0/19830928.pdf
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    Can we get a book/paper published? Like, A Brief History of Mixed Martial Arts and Freestyle Fighting Competitions. I'm not a historian by trade or training, but I also have a bit of an invested interest in the subject. I think there's definitely a lack of legitimate literature on the subject.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conde Koma View Post
    Can we get a book/paper published? Like, A Brief History of Mixed Martial Arts and Freestyle Fighting Competitions. I'm not a historian by trade or training, but I also have a bit of an invested interest in the subject. I think there's definitely a lack of legitimate literature on the subject.
    That would be a worthy undertaking.

    Maybe we should start with a thread
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    Great video.

    Is that Tommy Lee Jones yelling, "Be first! Be first, Danny!" at 3:22?
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    First time you hear the phrase dropped on air during a UFC production is UFC 17 (5/15/98). Goldy looses the phrase "Superbowl of Mixed Martial Arts" and that's the first time you hear it. It was Mixed Match Martial Arts during UFC Ultimate Japan but then it went back to NHB/Reality Fighting/ No Rules Fighting.

    ****, Goldy has always sucked ass.
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    MMkay, it wont let me edit but I totally just fucked that up. It should read UFC 18 (1/08/99)
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