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  1. KJM is offline

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    I sure that most of you heard of Matt Fury or Combat conditioning I find that it is a this is very simplistic approach to strength training involves exercises performed for the appropriate movements in combat fitness in witch you don't need weight equipment.I have found in the beginning it was a challenge but after a while I plateau and in would need greater resistance to achieve greater muscle strength and conditioning. I am a CPTS " Certified Personal Training Specialist & Certified Stength & Conditioning most of what I train in is functional mobility and endurance balance coordination all geared in personal protection training .I am personal protection training specialist. The only way to train for personal protection is to train in P-H-A-T or Peripheral Heart Action Training witch is stength & cardio & flexibility all in one. How do you do it well in a gym you would have to use a full cerate or you can use dumbells I also use resistance bands. The key is to move blood flow to one body part to another in a specific way hitting areas of muscle groups making blood flow go to your upper and lower body from lower to upper body back & forth that allows you to increase your cardiovascular effciency maintain flexbility increase size & strength and build functional & soild foundation for overall fitness. I have been using resistance bands with my self and cilents for years I find that resistance bands are better then free weights for many reason. Well I found a great piece of equipment and most hard core weight lifter will LOL when I tell them adout it Why I found it on a infomercial yes "infomercial " but like I said I been using resistance bands for year so when I saw this I knew it was worth while I order it I wish I thought of it. Its called the POWERBASE There are six sets of resistance bands providing up to 300lbs of resistance more than enough to do a high-intensity workout. If you like to do Hindu squats try it with resistance bands this isn't free weights so you have more smooth controlled movements with all routines. This is a great piece of equipment and portable too. I travel allot in my business it's very convenient. I have nothing to gain or do to with the POWERBASE. I know the right way to workout P-H-A-T is the best way for personal protection training and the POWERBASE makes it so easy to do it. If you're looking to go much higher intensity on you're body weight routines or if you plateau on Matt Fury or Combat conditioning routines try it out.
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    Lemme play devil's advocate for a sec here...

    Matt Furey seems like a snake-oil salesman, but it's hard to dispute a lot of what he says when it comes through him from legitimate sources like Frank Gotch and has interspecific verification from guys like Bruce Lee.

    How much of what he does is his own invention? His website reads like "this is from Frank Gotch, this is from Farmer Burns, this is from Chinese acrobats", etc. If it's just his interpretation of another person's proven stuff, there might not be so much to ridicule about him.

    I'm going god damn insane, but I've actually given a moment's thought to getting his new "gama fitness" program... My line of reasoning is that I don't have the time or space for weights, he's saying it's better than CC, which was already good as far as I hear, plus if it works for me we can finally stop talking ****, or if it doesn't then we can press him on it.

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  3. KJM is offline

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    I forgot, heres the site for the POWERBASE http://www.powerbasefitness.com/ You want the Strength Gym. Understanding how to use the POWERBASE is the key. It goes anywhere, itís slightly larger than a laptop and weighs less so if don't have the time or space for weights it is worth while.
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    I really haven't seen any of Matt Furey's exercises, but I'm assuming they're a lot like some of the stuff we did in the Army: guerilla drills, sandbag drills, blivet ball, etc.

    I personally don't feel you can avoid weight training completely though, there's really no better way to train for strength for lifting/moving things greater than your bodyweight.
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    It's more about endurance than strength. I guarentee you'll strengthen your core muscles and your stabilizer muscles that might be neglected if you lift with machines or do limited motion lifts with free weights.
    Doing Matt Furey's workout will just allow you to go longer and harder. Phrost is right! I wouldn't completly cut out weights.
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    I agree, really no better way to train for strength for lifting/moving things greater than your bodyweight but first start with your bodyweight If you can't lift your own bodyweight why lift weights.If you can lift your body weight with easy than you have plateau so you need out side resistance to grow and get stronger. As for motion lifts with free weights you can't do allot of functional exercises,with out causing a injury momentum of free weights can not be controlled.resistance band can be controlled, there for resistance bands are much better then free weights for functional exercises, resistance bands providing up to 300lbs of resistance more than enough to do a high-intensity workout and one more important thing that you can't do with free weights do (eccentric movments) to jump to punch to move laterally to use your stabilizer muscles hitting muscles from different angles with controlled momentum The only reason I like the POWERBASE is its all there for you its easy to do and I can take anywhere it has some limitation like the bench press. I find that pressing from the floor you don't get a full ROM as you would from a bench I still get a good chest workout with it doing other things for chest.I don't train like a bodybuilder If you train like a bodybuilder you will look like Tarzan but hit like Jane.If you ever seen a bodybuilder fight it so funny LOL most of them rip a bicep or a pectoral muscles because there extenor muscles are so over developed and tight. I train as a fighter.Functional exercises are the Key well balance program that you can perform overall day to day.






    Edited by - KJM on November 09 2002 01:12:01
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    ppsh .. if its good enough for Bill Goldburg and Jane Austin then .. uh ..
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    ppsh .. if its good enough for Bill Goldburg and Jane Austin then .. uh ..
    I knew when I posted the site that people were going to be negative about the site. If you can look past the infomercial part of it like the spoke persons. They used Bill Goldburg to show that there is a allot of resistance for an intense workout. I can tell you their is.You get a much different resistance from a 300lbs resistance with bands when you do with 300lbs weights it has to do with momentum. Resistance bands give you full negative & positive resistance all though R.O.M. weights do not.So with resistance bands your muscles get twice the resistance as you would with lifting weights.The resistance bands have been around for years,the different between the POWERBASE and the old or other resistance bands I used to tie them to other pieces of equipment machines & Doors or need a other person to hold it and so on to make them work the BASE of POWERBASE ties it all together .I found no other piece of equipment like the POWERBASE that you can move from exercise to exercise to lower and upper body and to change resistance.Resistance that is hard for strength training 8to10 reps to failure.It is so hard to do that even with a full gym of free weighs or equipment machines you try to do a P-H-A-T or Peripheral Heart Action Training in a gym you never can get cardiovascular efficiency that you can with this POWERBASE that I know that for a fact.To never get off of one piece of equipment! You only need 20min.for a full body high - intensity workout NO BS high - intensity workout! You well be huffing and buffing after you do a P-H-A-T or Peripheral Heart Action Training the right way.See if you can do it in the GYM with equipment machines or that home with Free weights. Here's the workout routine{ First all weight resistance is weight that you can do only 8 to 10 reps you will move to exercise to exercise with NO REST the routine is designed for lower and upper body to pull blood flow from upper extremities to lower extremities and than back forth. START )1.FRONT RAISE 2. LATERAL RAISES 3.SHOULDER PRESS 4. SQUATS then go right in to 5. ONE LEG SQUATS 6. STANDING BACK ROWS 7.STANDING CALF RAISES 8. STANDING FRENCH PRESS 9. KICK BACKS 10. WEIGHTED DONKEY KICKS 11.UP KICKS PRESS. from same place 12.(abs work)BICYCLES with resistance 13.CROSS CRUNCHS with resistance 14.DEADLIFT 15. BICEP CURLS DUMBELLS across body 15. STANDING BARBELL CURLS 16. SQUATS-DEADLIFTS all in one move.17. PECTORAL CROSS 18. FLYS 19. SEATED ROWS 20. CHEST PRESS 21. PEC DECK or CABLE FLYS 22. LUNGES then go in to 23. LATERAL LUNGES 24.SHRUGS 25. FORARM CURLS & REVERSE FORARM CURLS. That's it. See if you can do all of that in 20min remember with WEIGHT that you only could do 8 to 10 reps with non stop and more important good form no " CHEATING" on form!! Let me know how it went for you if you tried it.( I would like to find out more about Matt Fury "gama fitness" program If anyone has more information on it I would like know the different between Combat conditioning routines and gamma fitness" program He is asking for allot of money for this gamma fitness" program 195.00 to 1998.00 with no money back if not satisfy so I would like to know if its worth while.

    Edited by - KJM on November 11 2002 19:10:04
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    Posted On:
    11/16/2002 11:09pm


     

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    Which one of these workout schedules do you guys think is better:

    Sunday:Rest
    Monday:Conditioning Exercises
    Tuesday:Powerlifting
    Wednesday:Conditioning Exercises
    Thursday:Basic Workout
    Friday:Powerlifting
    Saturday:Basic Workout



    Suday:Rest
    Monday:Rest
    Tuesday:Powerlifting
    Wednesday:Rest
    Thursday:Powerlifting
    Friday:Basic workout & Conditioning Exercises
    Saturday:Basic Workout & Conditioning Exercises


    My basic workout is Hindu ( squats -,push ups),sit ups chin ups.
    My conditioning exercises to exercises (P.H.A.T) also exercises that strengthen the joints and tendons. flexibility

    For power lifting I do inclined bench press,military press,and squats ,deadlifts and bent over rows ) heavy weight. 6to8 reps 3sets

    Here is what I am trying to achieve in order from important to least important:

    1)Strength
    2)Speed
    3)Endurance

    I also run and Train for every day except for the days I rest.

    Also, please tell me what what are doing and if you have a better workout schedule could you tell me

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