Bartitsu: Interview between Sherlock Holmes fight choreographer and a bartitsu guy.

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Interview Here

Not that I do bartitsu, but this got posted on the Schola Galdiatoria forum, and is interesting, especially in the statement of the similarities of Wing Chun and 19th century bareknuckle. I thought people (denizens?) here might like to know.

[Phrost]

You know, I'd honestly like to see a bareknuckle fight between a modern boxer and someone proficient in the pre-queensbury rules style of boxing.

For Science, of course.

[mcj1013]

I had just seen this movie last night, and I must say that I was pleasantly surprised with the fight scenes. Although not entirely an action movie, I'd still recommend going to see it.

[Rene "Zendokan" Gysenbergs]

You know, I'd honestly like to see a bareknuckle fight between a modern boxer and someone proficient in the pre-queensbury rules style of boxing.

For Science, of course.

I would like to see a bareknuckle fight between a Wing Chunner and a pre-queensbury rules boxer.

Can't we ask Omega to train Sirc in the pre-queensbury rules style of boxing.

[MSphinx]

To do this we chose to utilize the Chinese boxing that Downey practices as the foundation and also incorporate swordplay and elements of Brazilian ju-jitsu, which Ritchie practices.

Spoiler:

That explains the slaps and vertical fist during Holmes' bareknuckle boxing segment:



... and the arm bar and RNC (or lapel choke? I think Watson used a sleeve, but he got hooks in anyway) near the climax of the film:

Spoiler:

I couldn't find a proper picture.

[socratic]

Actually, pre-Queensberry boxers aligned their fist vertically too. But I think (Ddlr, opinion?) they aimed with their index and middle knuckles rather than the 'bottom' ones like Chunners do.

[MSphinx]

I stand corrected about the vertical fist.

[RedCrane]

Actually, pre-Queensberry boxers aligned their fist vertically too. But I think (Ddlr, opinion?) they aimed with their index and middle knuckles rather than the 'bottom' ones like Chunners do.

I can't quote any references off the top of my head, and there's also a whole lot of variation even in BKB, but actually I think that the lower knuckles were recommended more often than not.

Ddlr will probably be a whole lot more informative than I.


All the Best,

-Chris Amendola

[SBG-ape]

Regardless, the movie had Holmes doing a lot of elbow flapping to encounter blows & a lot of slapping that all looked more Chun than BKB.

Watson, on the other hand, was great: mixing cane fighting, punches/kicks & some nice choke holds. He seemed more representative of Bartitisu than Holmes.

[DdlR]

Actually, pre-Queensberry boxers aligned their fist vertically too. But I think (Ddlr, opinion?) they aimed with their index and middle knuckles rather than the 'bottom' ones like Chunners do.

Depends on who you ask (i.e., which 19th century manual you're reading), but I'd say the two middle knuckles are more standard.