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  1. FingerorMoon? is offline

    The man they call FoM

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    Posted On:
    2/12/2004 12:50am

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    I have blown nothing until you start your digging.
    The Wastrel - So attractive he HAS to be a woman.
    - Pizdoff
  2. Deadpan Scientist is offline

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    Posted On:
    3/07/2004 11:26pm

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Lee's latest email:

    Hey Guys

    Stop sending me ... You have to tell me because I feel that I have the right
    to know about you ... emails. Man, I've recieved five personal emails like
    that today.

    Either choose to believe or choose not to believe...its a free country...
    exercise your right to have a judgement. Either way...whichever you choose
    isnt going to change the reality of my life for even one minute out of my day.
    My life continues to be what it is.

    Again...If you have a problem with me...come tell it to me.

    The only guy that has ever had a problem with me and came to me with it when
    I gave the opportunity....was Art Dison. Art was the only guy in three years
    of accussing me to be BS that has ever stood up to the plate. I believe that
    Art walked away with a different oppinion of me after meeting me.

    I have respect for Art who is willing to show up and discuss his problem with
    me. I feel only shame for all the other guys who sit and yap behind a
    keyboard.

    Any time I've alluded to anything in my life all its brought me is heat from
    some guys here and guys from other Forum sites these guys hang out on.

    Some one called Tim screwed you guys that want me to put up lessons. I cant
    put up lessons for a guy who on one hand wants lessons....and on the other hand
    is interested only in trying to discredit me. I have to know where the lessons
    I put up are going. I'm working on putting up a site that you'll need a key to
    get into. I'm still trying to figure out how to keep it free for you guys.
    What I'm working on is that you'll have to get hold of me to get the key...and
    then the key changes with each user. I havent figured out how to put it
    together or if its even possible.

    If I put up a pay site it'll have video lessons and the corresponding written
    lessons.

    As far as anyone having the right to have anything about me that I'm not
    willing to give... Show me anywhere in the Constitution...Bill of Rights... or
    Pre-Amble...where it says...You have the Right to Know everything about Lee
    Shadow Bear... and at that point I will roll over.

    There are reasons that I live like I do. You dont need to know those
    reasons. Its more than enough to know that the reasons exist.

    Lee
  3. Deadpan Scientist is offline

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    Posted On:
    3/07/2004 11:27pm

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    Hey JP

    Yeah I can some. I'll talk to you some at the Jam in June. Any time I've said anything here it's always come back..no thats BS...and then one of our guys always takes it somewhere else and starts a firestorm that I have to deal with for months after. A real Truth in life is that a guy can either do what he says he cana...or he cant. Now the delema for people is...if they cant prove or disprove...where did the guy aquire his skills? :)

    A big part of the deal is that I chose a long time ago to stay under the radar and out of the data base. I can pretty much come and go unnoticed. Everyone knows I'm around somewhere...but not really sure just where.

    Nobody thinks much about it when I'm where I'm at right now...then in Georgia or Alaska a couple days from now. If I disappear for a couple days or a week or two here and there nobody thinks much about it.

    Names and records are all scrambled and hidden for a reason. Not everybody lives a 9 to 5 Monday to Saurday existence. :)

    Besides...a little mystery in people's lives is a good thing.

    Talk to you later. Lee
  4. Sam Browning is offline

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    Posted On:
    3/08/2004 1:29am

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    There is not a general constitutional right to know about someone but this is a red herring. Lee has a website holding himself out publicly as a hand to hand expert and he has mentioned going through BUDS. When consumers or potential consumers question his claims he says "you don't have the right to know". My response is if you never mentioned going through BUDS then this would be true but since you are asserting this, you can back up your claim. I understand that he has failed the authentiseal background check. Please tell me if I'm wrong Brand. What is an on-site visit going to establish, that he has a freddy the frog tatoo and can do the sidestroke? Nope if he claims BUDS and can't back it he's Bullshido.
  5. Deadpan Scientist is offline

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    Posted On:
    3/08/2004 1:31am

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    The name I was given by someone else failed the authentiseal test. He seems to insinuate that we just didn't have the right name.
    Last edited by Deadpan Scientist; 3/08/2004 9:39pm at .
  6. Sam Browning is offline

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    Posted On:
    3/08/2004 1:39am

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    Why study with someone who won't even give you his real last name? Moves around the country frequently under a false name, the people I know who do this are usually engaged in some sort of criminal enterprise. There is no good reason to do this otherwise.
  7. Deadpan Scientist is offline

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    3/08/2004 1:42am

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    Yep. That's exactly what I was thinking. He's going to open a school in Corona, CA. When he does that I'm pretty sure his real name will have to be a matter of public record, no?
  8. The Wastrel is offline
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    Such as thou art, sometime was I.

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    Posted On:
    3/08/2004 2:17am

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    He also failed the test of "not-claiming-you-have-a-government-implanted-bio-locator-homing-device-tracking-micro-chip-in-your-arm".
    Normally, I'd say I was grappling, but I was taking down and mounting people, and JFS has kindly informed us that takedowns and being mounted are neither grappling nor anti grappling, so I'm not sure what the **** I was doing. Maybe schroedinger's sparring, where it's neither grappling nor anti-grappling until somoene observes it and collapses the waveform, and then I RNC a cat to death.----fatherdog
  9. chaosexmachina is offline
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    Posted On:
    3/08/2004 3:10am

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    If he wants to stay under the radar, why would he tell us all this? BULLLLLL-SHEEEEEE-DOHHHHHHH!!!

    |\/|Y 8R41N5 4R3 73H 3XPL0D1NG!!
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  10. Deadpan Scientist is offline

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    He wants respect.
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