[ICY]

So, I've recently finished my latest cycle. This time I tried boldenone (or Equipoise, or EQ as it's known to most roid monkeys). Actually, I started out just thinking I'd use testosterone by itself, but then my joints got achy, so I added the EQ and that seems to have helped a lot, like nandrolone decanoate did without the bloating side effect.

So far, I've done 4 cycles, and 7 different steroids, and guinea pigged 2 other types of roids and one type of weight cutters on other guys and I think I've actually got it down to a science after much trial and error. So without further BS, here's the cycle I'm doing next, the ultimate cycle, AFAIK, especially with MMA in mind, because of course, the goal is different when you want overall performance, not just being huge, which I've never found anywhere online, so here it is:

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Dianabol (DBol) 50mg/day, for the first 20 days

This is a bulker and 'kick starts' the cycle, producing massive muscle and strength gains immediately, but also a bloated "roided out" look, of course, the bloating will go away after use is discontinued, but so will most of the gains, however, in this cycle, enough other roids will be incorporated to attempt avoiding/making up for, that loss

Testosterone Propionate (Prop) 100mg (1ml) every two days, for the first 20 days

This is the fastest acting oil based testosterone, testosterone adds strength and size to muscles, not as much as dianabol does, but it is far less liver toxic and increases the 'size ceiling' for your body/makes it possible for your frame to support more muscle than it naturally could, for the length of your cycle, and more of the gains you make from it will stay with you than those you make from dianabol and other stronger bulking agents I will not go into another detailed explaination of testosterone after this)

Testosterone 400 (Test 400), 400mg (1ml)/week for the first 3 weeks, 800mg (2ml) each week for weeks 4-16

This is a blend of fast and slow acting testosterones in the most potent form available. It's the most bang for your buck with it comes to testosterone.

Nandrolone Phenylpropionate (NPP) 150mg (1ml) every two days, for the first 20 days

This is a fast acting form of nandrolone, the steroid favoured by Royce Gracie when he rematched and beat Sakuraba and Sean Sherk when he was able to pick up guys and slam them in the 5th rd, which I may point out, he hasn't done since being busted for it, nandrolone produces decent gains that stay with you more than those from either dianabol or testosterone, but also has a bloating effect lesser than that of dbol, but still prominent enough that last time I used it, people thought I was getting chubby as opposed to big in a lean way, nandrolone also has joint soothing properties, even if it doesn't necessarily heal damaged joints, it does make joint pain disappear and keep them lubricated better than usual, there is also the more famous nandrolone decanoate, or deca, that is used by more athletes due to its afforability, but we'll steer clear of that in this cycle to avoid ongoing bloating issues, but we will use it to 'kick start' the joint soothing properties that boldenone will take care of once it begins to kick in, it will also improve muscular endurance while in use

Boldenone Undecylenate (Equipoise or EQ) 300mg/week for the first 3 weeks, 600mg/week for weeks 4-16

This is a size neutral steroid that improves vascularity, strength, appetite (if you want to get big), muscular endurance, red blood cell count, muscle density, and promotes fat loss. I've found that I gained no size while on it, but my shape changed and I got harder. Boldenone takes time to kick in and doesn't result in huge gains by itself, which is why we're taking other fast acting roids to get the gains we want and start the gains as soon as our natural test production begins to drop, best to get the most out of the time we're taking off of testicular function. The best part of boldenone is the quality of the gains and the MASSIVE improvement of athletic performance. I am twice the wrestler I normally am on boldenone and my endurance is even a little better on it than nandrolone, without the bloating. IE, I don't have to worry about fighting outside my weightclass or gassing, but my strength is still through the roof.

Oxandrolone (Anavar) 50mg/day, for the 21st-61st days

This is an athletic performance booster that produces modest gains that you will keep more of than any of the other roids in this cycle (or any roid that I know of). The intention here is to solidify and attempt to make permanent the gains already made and improve endurance further than otherwise possible.

Stanozolol (Winstrol) 50mg/day, for the 62nd-104th days

This is a cutting steroid that will harden muscles and increase red blood cell count. As such, it will boost cardio and allow you to fit into your weightclass with the absolute maximum amount of power and endurance when used in combination with EQ and test.

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Just FYI, I expect to spend about $1000 on this cycle. Not including other drugs I will take in order to offset the side effects.

So that's the cycle, tommorow I'll post some other drugs you may want to have on hand if you're going to use roids in general, and ESPECIALLY if you're going to use several at once. DO try this at home, but don't blame me if you suffer side effects, because, as with any drug, the potential for side effects is always there.

Do your research on any drug you intend to try, and always check with your doctor for contraindications as regards any other medication you may be taking. Ask your doctor about the risks to you personally, considering any history you may have with heart or resperatory conditions or horomonal or chemical imbalances. If they just say "Don't do it, drugs are bad" then FUCK THEM, but if they tell you that, considering a specific condition you have it may be a bad idea, heed their warning.

Thanks to steroids, I have gained 30 lbs of lean muscle mass (that I have kept, even off cycle) in under 2 years.

[MMAMickey]

so you're actually competing in combat sports with t3h r01dz?

[ICY]

Not yet, but I plan to. There's no rule against it in amatuer competition...or pro around here, for that matter.

Besides that, most MMA fighters juice, and I have that on reasonably good authority. I can make another thread about how to juice and beat the testing.

[MMAMickey]

Yeah I was under the impression the vast majority of fighters were on something, once one is on it everyone else has to be to remain competitive

[Res Judicata]

I don't juice, but the guys over at t-nation in the steroid forum are incredibly knowledgeable about this stuff for both mass and athletic performance.. You might want to run your protocol by them.

I assume you get your liver function, etc. checked and have PCT worked out?

Did you feel you had reached your natural limit before juicing?

[Drmarrello]

Originally Posted by ICY

Not yet, but I plan to. There's no rule against it in amatuer competition...or pro around here, for that matter.

Besides that, most MMA fighters juice, and I have that on reasonably good authority. I can make another thread about how to juice and beat the testing.

Sure there is, its called integrity. BTW, if its illegal in the real world it doesn't matter if there is a rule against it in your sport or not. It's illegal!

• Simple possession of steroids with no prior offenses
  • Up to a year in federal prison; and/or
  • Minimum fine of $1,000.
• Simple possession of steroids with certain prior convictions
  • Minimum 15 days in prison, and up to two years in prison; and/or
  • Minimum fine of $2,000.
• Possession with intent to sell
  • Up to five years in prison; and/or
  • Minimum fine of $5,000.

My sport doesn't have a "rule" against it your honor, I thought it was okay then. Doesn't hold up too well! Not sure if, "other guys do it," does either.

Personally, if I was in a combat sport where death is always possible, with someone and found out they were juiced later.........

"I'm sorry, your honor. The bat slipped out of my hand and smashed their freaking head in accidentally." Would be my defense.

Not trying to preach, its your body! But if it is going to be used to damage someone else's physical well being, I have a huge problem with it. Baseball is one thing, beating the tar out of someone is quite another.

[Emevas]

Originally Posted by Drmarrello

Sure there is, its called integrity. BTW, if its illegal in the real world it doesn't matter if there is a rule against it in your sport or not. It's illegal!

• Simple possession of steroids with no prior offenses
  • Up to a year in federal prison; and/or
  • Minimum fine of $1,000.
• Simple possession of steroids with certain prior convictions
  • Minimum 15 days in prison, and up to two years in prison; and/or
  • Minimum fine of $2,000.
• Possession with intent to sell
  • Up to five years in prison; and/or
  • Minimum fine of $5,000.

My sport doesn't have a "rule" against it your honor, I thought it was okay then. Doesn't hold up too well! Not sure if, "other guys do it," does either.

Personally, if I was in a combat sport where death is always possible, with someone and found out they were juiced later.........

"I'm sorry, your honor. The bat slipped out of my hand and smashed their freaking head in accidentally." Would be my defense.

Not trying to preach, its your body! But if it is going to be used to damage someone else's physical well being, I have a huge problem with it. Baseball is one thing, beating the tar out of someone is quite another.

Would you be just as upset if you found out that your opponent had been strength training to become stronger and better able to beat you up? What if he had been training longer so that he could become better at beating you up?

It's not like steroids turn you into Superman where you can punch someone's head off. ICY isn't going to become too deadly for the ring by using these. FFS, Phil Baroni is a blatant user, and the fucker can't even WIN fights.

You also say "the real world" when I think you're referring to the United States and Canada. Steroids are legal in a lot of countries.

If we can please keep the political shit out of a forum that is about physical training, I would greatly appreciate it. Treating the subject with ignorance and hatred isn't going to foster scientific growth, just continue the dogmatic view most people have.

[Drmarrello]

The fact that you just compared performance enhancing drugs and strength training as the same thing just made us all dumber for having read it!

How's that for political?

I prefer to do things naturally but if you need help manning up go for it. Just stating how I feel about the subject.

Btw, I think you are trying to perhaps ease your guilt by implying they don't do much. If they didn't make a difference there would be no reason to take the risk!

[Emevas]

Strength training=you get stronger, able to beat up someone better.
Performance enhancing drugs=you get stronger, able to beat up someone better.

You are threatening to MURDER someone with a baseball bat for getting stronger and more able to beat you up. I'm the dumb one?

I prefer to do things naturally but if you need help manning up go for it. Just stating how I feel about the subject.

Seriously, the machismo is retarded on the subject. "Lolz, I'm all natural baby, I'm a REAL man" So you're saying every major athlete that ever used performance enhancing drugs is less of a man than you are? That's a long list, and those people have sacrafice WAY more than you to get to where they are.

Btw, I think you are trying to perhaps ease your guilt by implying they don't do much. If they didn't make a difference there would be no reason to take the risk!

What guilt? I've never used steroids, and most likely never will use them.

What risks are you speaking of? Please cite scientific studies that take a test group of people using steroids with proper PCT and list all of the risks associated with it.

Do you drink alcohol? Are you aware of how many people die from that compared to steroids?


No one cares how you feel on the subject. You are an idiot, and you are weak. STFU and stop posting in this section until you've done any reading on the subject that you're running your mouth about. This is bullshido, myth and dogma are not appreciated here.

[HappyOldGuy]

Strength training causes liver toxicity and mantits. Seriously Emevas, I know you are trying to keep the idiot say no to steroids stuff to a minimum, but there is an extreme on the other side too.