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  1. kuzushi1 is offline

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    Posted On:
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    I have also started a thread at http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/ in the S&C forum regarding censorship and posts being deleted in a thread started by Mr. Sonnon.
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    I have also started a thread at mixedmartialarts.com in the S&C forum about censorship where posts were deleted in a thread started by Mr. Sonnon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kuzushi1 View Post
    I have also started a thread at mixedmartialarts.com in the S&C forum about censorship where posts were deleted in a thread started by Mr. Sonnon.
    links

    http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/mma....orum=24&page=1

    http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/?go=...60&page=1&pc=1
    One of the best Bullshido investigations ever written: http://www.bullshido.org/David_Kujawski_Investigation

    "disgruntled ex student who couldn't hack training with Dave and his material and opted out (could be called pussied out) of training to go to Sambo" - Mor Sao
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    In his attempt to remove the defects I mentioned yesterday, mr Sonnon has inadvertently provided us with extremely high-resolution versions of the images in question. This makes my job so very much easier.

    Thanks Scott.
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    KosherKickboxer has t3h r34l chi sao

    In De Janerio, in blackest night,
    Luta Livre flees the fight,
    Behold Maeda's sacred tights;
    Beware my power... Blue Lantern's light!
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    Just amazing, true MENSA-level genius at work...
    Many things we do naturally become difficult only when we try to make them intellectual subjects. It is possible to know so much about a subject that you become totally ignorant.
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    http://www.rmaxinternational.com/hom...id=74&Itemid=0

    The image of his document has been changed on his bio as well.

    Interestingly, Scott claims: "Despite Physical and Mental Challenges,
    Scott Sonnon earned USSR's Highest Athletic Distinction:
    The Honourable Master of Sport"


    His document is dated, 1999, long after ther USSR had been trashed. Also, his "Honorable Master of Sport" was given by the "American Sambo Federation". In otherwords, his rank would have been from the USA, not the USSR...if he had gotten one.
    One of the best Bullshido investigations ever written: http://www.bullshido.org/David_Kujawski_Investigation

    "disgruntled ex student who couldn't hack training with Dave and his material and opted out (could be called pussied out) of training to go to Sambo" - Mor Sao
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    From Sonnon's blog:

    Debunking Claims of Fraud

    December 3, 2009 – 10:42 am
    People from an US Sambo company claimed that I did not earn an Honorable Master of Sport diploma, incited by the President of their association, Stephen R. Koepfer. On their company forum, before I resigned from their organization, they claimed that I did not have an Honorable Master of Sport. So, I took down my picture frame and scanned it in several pieces and reassembled it as one image (the diploma is 11x14, whereas the scanner is 8x11, so scanned it in two pieces and then put them together so you could see all the nice scrolling of the original document). After their attack, I resigned from their organization, because I was not going to support an organization which cannibalized its supporters in the same way that other Sambo organizations had done in the past, the very reason I resigned from my position as President of the first American Sombo association, ...
    From http://www.rmaxinternational.com/flowcoach/
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    KosherKickboxer has t3h r34l chi sao

    In De Janerio, in blackest night,
    Luta Livre flees the fight,
    Behold Maeda's sacred tights;
    Beware my power... Blue Lantern's light!
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    LOL....I am inciting a riot with my cohorts! No, just asking questions, Scott. If you had a reasonable explaination, it would have been easier to come here and speak it.
    Last edited by sambosteve; 12/03/2009 2:04pm at .
    One of the best Bullshido investigations ever written: http://www.bullshido.org/David_Kujawski_Investigation

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    Mr Sonnon,

    FTR, Steve Koepfer is not making any of the critical claims about the images you had posted until this morning, I am. I do a lot of image analysis for the site, and have no personal or political stake in this. I am not a SAMBO player, and to be honest, until yesterday I was pretty much oblivious to your existence.

    I strongly recommend you address the issues I raised yesterday in more convincing fashion. This attempt to cast the criticism as internal SAMBO politics falls pretty flat.

    Take a look at this image. Really look at it closely. It is a mirror, and that mirror reflects the face of a liar.

    Last edited by Matt Phillips; 12/03/2009 2:12pm at .
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    KosherKickboxer has t3h r34l chi sao

    In De Janerio, in blackest night,
    Luta Livre flees the fight,
    Behold Maeda's sacred tights;
    Beware my power... Blue Lantern's light!
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    Posted On:
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    FWIW: Sonnon resigned because he was asked some very basic questions about MMASaddle. He put up such a hissy-fit that the MOS question came up shortly thereafter.

    As for the rest of that^ quote: confirmation bias.
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