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  1. Matt Phillips is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by sambosteve View Post
    Sorry, I have been laid up with a broken leg (fibula in 2 places). broke it training this week. So, I am not at the computer much. Had no idea this thread was live again.

    But, do we even know that the sambo event Scott did compete in was even an official event at the cultural fesitval? Again, this, in part goes back to Josh Henson's misleading event title. But, all the evidence we have that it was part of the university games cultural fesitval comes from Henson and Sonnon. Do we have any independent verification? I have seen this event listed as part of the cultural games, as a demonstration sport at the WUG, and as an actual sport at the WUG. It is fairly common thought to some of the old guard I have spoken to, that this event was never really viewed as an official WUG event. It seems to have been looked at with a "wink and a nood".

    Could it be that Henson simply held a small event at the same time and was not officially affiliated with the WUG or Cultural festival at all. This was also a crazy time...right before the split of FIAS.

    Also, on a side note, ironically, I screamed like a Mutherfu*ker thursday when my leg broke. I find the story about hiding a broken arm from the ref very funny right about now...
    Hope your leg's doing OK. Don't take too many percs ;)

    Sonnon's opponent told me that the Henson bugged the woman in charge of the cultural festival until she gave him space for his event. It was apparently not part of even the cultural festival.
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    I dont know if he will get into the argument or not, but you might want to speak to a REAL expert on LOTAR which is Albert Timen...

    http://www.kapapacademy.com/

    He is ALL into getting the phony's out in the open....
    As well for all the KM/CKM/KAPAP/LOTAR Phonies, this site will help as well:
    http://martialartslies.blogspot.com/

    Let me know what you guys think....

    Zipit
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    I think you will find this useful. This is from one of my IDF Contacts:

    Hey Tommy,

    All is going well thanks.

    According to the document you had sent me there are few possibilities that I might consider looking out for, since he has two names in Hebrew appearing on this document in English.
    It would be very quick to check the references about him and what this document really represents.

    One name is Maor Bashan which signs under the title "Krav Maga section commander in the Lotar school" (Lotar is the name of the counter Terror school in the IDF).
    Second name is Lt. Col Ariel Ben Dayan the Unit commander.

    If you want I can run a quick check with some of my contacts in Israel and check it more in depth, but It seems that Mr.. Scott Sonnon had done a fitness seminar and got a "Thank you" letter nothing more. This can be arranged by
    anyone that has some contacts in the School and some other outside civilians had been doing this kind of gigs in order to get some "buff" for their Service/ or products they sell, otherwise why the certificate would be written in English and not in Hebrew for local purposes.

    Let me know if I can further assist..


    I know you guys have done a lot of work but my guy (Name Withheld) is a LOTAR SPECIALIST and ranked number 3 in counter terrorism. Soooo take from it what ya need and if you need more let me know...

    I love exposing fake commando's.
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    Yeah, why can't he just say he did a fitness-seminar? That is pretty badass of it's own; the whole CT-expert is a crass and tasteless distortion. Taking an obvious thank yoU letter and posting it as "proof" of being a Counter-Terrorism Expert is just lame.

    By the same token, I am a Soviet Colonel...
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    Serge,, I am in agreement wholeheartedly. I posted on other forums, that the only thing missing with some of these people is a cape and a big "S" on their chests.
    Obviously you being the the military in Russia, just KNOW who is who by the way they walk and talk. It does something to a person, even the way they look.<--- (Opinion)
    So I dont know if you took a look at the site I posted on the Krav Fakes and others like Jim Wagner, and Moni Aizik, Blah Blah Blah.
    The funny thing is that these people get mad when you expose them, however if you did ANYTHING like this in the MILITARY or FAKED you held a position, even WORE Ribbons and Service Medals and put on a uniform and just SAID you were this rank or that rank, you can be arrested and put in Jail.
    Stop me if any of you think I am wrong, but you need to take a road test to drive, a course and background check just to have a carry permit (in most states), permits and licenses for anything that might hold you liable, BUT NOTHING for Martial Arts instructors.

    Legislation would have to pass on something like this and you and I know that will never happen, So in the meantime, people forge documents (ILLEGAL), People open schools and some even have the privilage to train LEO and Military, all with no background checks for the most part.

    Sickening, but I and yourself can do something about it and that is expose the individuals for who and what they are...
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    LOL, my apologies! I meant to be sarcastic. As in, if Sonnon is a CT-Expert then I am a Soviet officer, or a Dr of Osteopathy or the producer of the greatest video of the decade/so forth. I'm an American who has not served but has no identity-crisis about that. I can think of few things more despicable than to Military cosplay for the sake of your own vanity or profit or edification...

    It's comforting to see Ashida Kim, Moni Aizik and Wagner showing up for some more laughs! The Martial arts and fitness industry is a shallow-pool for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zipit777 View Post
    I know you guys have done a lot of work but my guy (Name Withheld) is a LOTAR SPECIALIST and ranked number 3 in counter terrorism. Soooo take from it what ya need and if you need more let me know...

    I love exposing fake commando's.
    Ok, I got to ask.
    What does "ranked in counter terrorism"? mean?
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    Pardon, it was mentioned at a seminar at my school with him, He is one of the 3 MOST popular name to be asked for in Israel when it comes to Tactical Firearms and Counter Terrorism, I don't know who the other two are.

    However, you may take a peak at his BIO...Regardless pretty impressive and knows what he is talking about on this subject, hands down...

    http://www.isi-team.com/Timen.html
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    IMHO the LOTAR angle is pretty much settled, unless zipit's guy determines that Bashan is not reliable.

    Mods: We really need a name change on this thread. Howzabout "Scott Sonnon's Resume"?
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    Thread title changed.
    Original title: "LOTAR: Counter-terrorism experts?"
    Calm down, it's only ones and zeros.

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