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    BJJ Oklahoma City - Anyone heard of them?

    Saw this site listed on the underground, and since we have some members in the OKC area, wanted to check with y'all.

    Muhammad is a purple belt in this video.

    May 17th, 2007
    YouTube- BJJ 3 submission series Muhammad Brazilian Jiu Jitsu Vale Tu

    In this video, he's a 3 stripe Black Belt.

    May 23rd, 2007
    YouTube- BJJ 3 sweep series muhammad Brazilian Jiu Jitsu

    Anyone know or heard of this school?
    Quote Originally Posted by Sifu Rudy Abel
    "Just what makes a pure grappler think he can survive with an experienced striker. Especially if that striker isn't following any particular rule set and is well aware of what the grapplers strategies are".
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    He's wearing a Lovato patch.

    http://www.okbjj.com/Default.aspx

    Not listed on the competition team or as an instructor.

    Email has been sent to give Lovato a heads up on this thread. The school itself is well known and respected for the quality of instruction.
    Last edited by hungryjoe; 11/28/2009 9:36am at . Reason: added comments
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    Here is his website if I have the name correct.
    http://www.bjjokc.com/



    Sounds like he recently went under Carlos Machado.

    http://www.lugazette.com/home/index....9-8ace7c9fb929


    If it is the same guy, he has competed:
    2003
    http://austinjiujitsu.com/budo/bjj/r...llas_open.html
    Open
    1st Justin Rader (Machado)
    2nd Malcom Muhammed (Machado)
    3rd Eddie Avelar (Machado)
    2002:
    http://dcthomas.com/budo/bjj/results...itational.html


    He hasn't changed it anywhere to say he is a BB in BJJ.

    BLUE CRUISER:
    1ST- JORY MALONE (LIVING DEFENSE)
    2ND- MICHAEL NADELEY (PITTMAN)
    3RD- MALCOM MUHAMMAD (LOVATO)
    2001:
    http://www.onzuka.com/news_2001Dec2.html
    Men's Advanced Cruiser

    1st Place - Malcolm Muhammad - Lovato's BJJ

    2nd Place - Alvis Solis - Machado BJJ

    3rd Place - Mike Fulford - Machado BJJ
    Looks like he left Lovato's BJJ...??



    http://www.myspace.com/muhammadjiujitsu_malcolm

    Oklahoma City's premier MMA school with five helpful instructors that have extensive martial arts backgrounds. We teach Brazilian Jiu Jitsu as official representatives of the World famous 8th Degree Black Belt Carlos Machado. I'm ranked Purple Belt BJJ. Also we teach Muay Thai, Kick Boxing and Judo. Our school has three Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu Pan-American Championship Medalists with a myriad of other champion tournament medals. A friendly warm school atmosphere geared for meeting all of your goals in martial arts Background.
    I know, it doesn't help with the rank jump but, it does show he has been competing since 2001. He hasn't changed it anywhere to say he is a BJJ BB.
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    Good work IIF.

    My bad. Had never heard of their school and only saw the Lovato patch.
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    Well he did compete under Lovato so, that was a good call. I'm curious what they have to say. Also, it reminds me of someone else we had on bullshido. A guy with legit grappling rank who wore one of his other ranks while grappling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by It is Fake View Post
    Well he did compete under Lovato so, that was a good call. I'm curious what they have to say. Also, it reminds me of someone else we had on bullshido. A guy with legit grappling rank who wore one of his other ranks while grappling.
    Here's the thing, I know that the red sleeve is used by BJJ to show that they are qualified to teach. Shen from the underground backed that up.

    There are NONE that use BJJ Belts.

    The MOST similar belt to a BJJ Black Belt is used In some styles of American jujitsu (e.g. Danzan Ryu) and in American Kenpo wherein they use LONG RED TIPS to denote "Professors".

    In these belts the red material is much longer then the red sleeve on a BJJ belt and covers the END of the belt --unlike in BJJ belts.

    There are no styles other than BJJ that use the BJJ-style "sleeve". It is unique to Brazilian Jiu jitsu.
    So if it's another style's BB, why is he using a BJJ BB to denote it?
    Quote Originally Posted by Sifu Rudy Abel
    "Just what makes a pure grappler think he can survive with an experienced striker. Especially if that striker isn't following any particular rule set and is well aware of what the grapplers strategies are".
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    You know there are no documentations on when those videos were shot. They could actually be years apart. Just saying.
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    Yes, and MT used be known as not having Black Belts either. Now, a few are popping up.

    I said I know it doesn't help with the rank jump. If you know all of this already you should have posted this tid bit. I have never claimed to do BJJ or know how they denote their belts.

    As many asinine rank frauds we get I am hoping it is something innocent.

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    Can you explain the "Red Sleeve?"
    Last edited by It is Fake; 11/28/2009 4:12pm at .
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    The red sleeve is simply that you can see the black tip poking out of the end of the belt. Whereas other arts, the tip of the belt is red also.

    Here is a pic:

    http://www.caiquejiujitsu.com/(S(joy....aspx?page=bbh
    Last edited by Diesel_tke; 11/28/2009 4:26pm at . Reason: link to pics of belts
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    Quote Originally Posted by diesel_tke View Post
    The red sleeve is simply that you can see the black tip poking out of the end of the belt. Whereas other arts, the tip of the belt is red also.
    Picture because, I'm not getting what you are saying.

    This?


    Edit:
    Same time thank you. Now, I see the issue with the belt. He has it stripped in a manner normally indicative of BJJ rank denotation correct?

    Well this definitely doesn't help if I understand what you guys are saying:
    Last edited by It is Fake; 11/28/2009 4:35pm at .

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