Originally Posted by mad_malk
I think that eventually, they'll come up with something decent...they made a point of telling me how they went "the extra mile" to get this stuff for me...and just before they left, they handed me a box, jumped in their rental car, and "peaced out"---lol
I got inside and I was treated to the finest malt liquor that 7-11 probably could provide. And it was such rot-gut **** that most winos I know wouldn't have messed with it. They called a few minutes down the road (conveniently out of rifle range) and got a big laugh out of it. I promised swift voodoo revenge upon both of them, and their mothers!!
Aout a year later, I helped another buddy get ready for a PSD job overseas...and he pulled a similar one one me; (Yeah, I'll get you some 5.56 or 50BMG ammo, or a couple of EoTechs or something)...two difference times for a week each (I took vacation for that bastard!) same results: Forgotten and abused. lol Now...I don't even give a **** anymore. Expect nothing...and you're never let down. :5sonar:
2 More questions come to mind:
Originally Posted by Lord Skeletor
1. You mentioned unloading weapons to travel, but would I have to buy ammo in VA or would I be able to pack up some boxes to bring?
2. Do you have to be 21 for handgun ownership in VA? The age is 18 here, and I'll be 21 in September. Also, does federal law regulate the age you must be to fly with a weapon?
Originally Posted by zaohu
First of all...you can bring your own ammo with you. Secondly, you have to be 21 years old to purchase a handgun, not necessarily possess one.
Check the law out:
To fly with them, they cannot be on carry-on luggage and must be in a lockable case (with padlock). You might have to notify the airline prior to boarding/bringing weapons. I'm not sure.
I am no expert on guns and **** but I've been flying quite a bit and I am sure you are not allowed to take ammunition on a flight...
Come to think of it, I know for a fact my Uncle has brought both weapons and ammunition into Phoenix when he visited in the past, and on more than one occasion. I should ask him how he went about it. I know it was flown in and not bought because he brings a G36 with old Black Talon ammo every time.
Originally Posted by Xmas in Shorts
as for flying as i have done this you must notify the airline when you arrive at the counter when checking in. you must then fill out a form and the clerk will make sure you are not transporting a loaded firearm. then you have to be escorted by a TSA agent to the ex-ray scanner where u have to stand by while they run your bags and weapons thru the machine. The fire arm must be in a locked case with padlocks. the ammunition must be in a separate container with a pad lock. So if your transporting ammo make sure your ammo cans can be pad locked.
Oh you are talking domestic flights, this might be different from international... my bad but still I'm sure you should check with the airline in advance.
He brought a what with what?
Originally Posted by zaohu
Probably a Glock 36 with Winchester "Black Talon" ammunition. A Glock 36 is a compact, single-stack .45 pistol--as compact as Glock .45's get, which isn't very.
"Black Talon" sounds ominous but it's the same thing Winchester now sells as "Ranger SXT" ammunition. It's a pretty good hollow point that, because of the way it's scored to force expansion, tends to open up in the body in a way that leaves the ends of the peeled "petals" sharp and pointed. The press tried to say it would spin in the body like a buzzsaw, that it was a danger to emergency surgeons who would be sliced and diced by the deadly sharp bullet fragments, and that it would penetrate body armor designed for the caliber--in other words, that .45 acp Black Talon bullets would penetrate body armor rated for .45 acp. None of that is true. Rather than fight it, Winchester took the stuff off the market in a grandiose public gesture and put the Ranger SXT ("Ranger Same Exact Thing") back on the market quietly.
If you're going to fly with guns and ammunition, just keep in mind that the different airlines have their own rules. The feds don't care as long as the firearm is declared, is unloaded, and is in checked luggage. Different airlines sometimes have odd little rules--when I last flew with a handgun, the airline said the ammunition had to be in factory containers. My MTM plastic hard cases are much better than most cardboard factory boxes, but I dug some out anyway because it's their show.
Best advice is to check the airline's rules online beforehand, follow them to the letter, and then be prepared for airline employees and TSA goons to be completely ignorant of their own rules. In Norfolk, the TSA threw my bag with my as-yet-undeclared firearm in it on a conveyor to go through a scanner. I told the guy there was a firearm in the bag, and he replied that it would be no problem; it would set off the scanner and we'd pull it off and put the declaration with it. Only my steel SIG P220 pistol and 50 rounds of ammunition went unnoticed, and another goon tossed it through an opening into the back.
I then spent, I kid you not, half an hour trying to convince Goon 1, Goon 2, and the Supervisor Goon to pull the thing back out and let me put my federally-mandated firearm declaration into the case. They insisted that it would be no big deal, because when I switched planes in Philadelphia just before midnight, my luggage would not be checked by security. So it wasn't like I could get into any trouble or anything, right? I asked whether they were going to vouch in writing that if I were caught with an undeclared handgun and ammunition in my luggage in Philadelphia at midnight, the TSA in Philly was to deal with the TSA in Norfolk and let me go on my way. I was adamant, and eventually the Supervisor said, "So . . . . would you like me to go back there and bring your bag back out, sir? Would that help?"
"Yes." I told her. "Yes, I think that would help."
And before any smart-asses pipe up, yes I know the P220 has an aluminum frame. The rest is steel, and either way, it should have shown up.
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