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  1. Goju - Joe is offline
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    If Bj's strategy was to get punched in the face repeatedly, out wrestled to trick George in putting BJ on his back in the fourth round after 20 minutes of activity, where BJ has never subbed anyone in MMA.

    Then yes it was a clever cheating ploy.

    I hear GSP drank lots of water so he would be extra sweaty as well.

    Plus poutine to have greasy pores
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    Triangle chokes don't apply pressure to the back, just the neck. The rubber guard aspect I also considered when it happened, but after playing with a bit during jits class, I believe a greased back wouldn't strongly affect a rubber guard.

    The only situation I can imagine having an impact with with GSP standing and BJ hanging onto his back. But that's an extremely rare situation and not one that would really influence the fight.

    Your argument is stupid because you are wanting us to believe he cheated in a way that likely wouldn't actually help him win. That's like writing your math notes on your arm when you go into an English exam. It would take an icnredibly stupid person to try cheating in a way that doesn't actually help them.
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    Even if it had an effect you would have to prove that it was intentional.

    That would be like trying to prove BJ intentionally poked GSP in the eye in the first fight - an illegal move that had a much greater impact BTW.
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    4) Find the original comments by Dana. I saw them and posted it (youtube as I recall) and compare those comments (something like "Fucking cheating bullshit,") to his $$$$$$$ influenced comments he made the next day that whitewashed the issue.
    Let me know when the UFC gives BJ Penn the win and makes GSP hand over the win purse.
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    Oh no, that was my point. Dana was flipped out pissed, then later whitewashed the whole issue. Money talks etc

    Quote Originally Posted by Goju - Joe View Post
    Even if it had an effect you would have to prove that it was intentional.

    That would be like trying to prove BJ intentionally poked GSP in the eye in the first fight - an illegal move that had a much greater impact BTW.
    True, and I don't expect anything, just trying for honesty.

    To me honesty is where it's at. When I was 19 a cop hassled me. Thirty years later he was retired and at a restaurant he was being congratulated and I went up and said that he might have been a good cop, but the only time he dealt with me he was an abusive hippie hating jerk. Call a spade a spade.
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    Oh no, that was my point. Dana was flipped out pissed, then later whitewashed the whole issue. Money talks etc
    I don't think you follow. Dana talks a lot of nonsense. That's his job. But the money never lies.

    Dana's mouth: "Fedor ain't ****" (more or less)
    The UFC's wallet: "We want to give you lots of money, Fedor."

    If Dana was mad, he was mad because - all mitigating factors aside - a UFC titleholder had just been shitpumped.
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    That would be like trying to prove BJ intentionally poked GSP in the eye in the first fight - an illegal move that had a much greater impact BTW.
    Wha??

    I thought the argument against rbsd by
    the sport-fighting world was that eye-
    pokes/gouges don't werk?!

    Now they do?!

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    I thought it was they're low percentage, and even lower if you haven't got some kind of alive sparring. And that they can't be used from a disadvantageous position.
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    Wha??

    I thought the argument against rbsd by
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    pokes/gouges don't werk?!

    Now they do?!

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    Actually GSP won regardless of the ey poke so .. no they don't
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goju - Joe View Post
    Actually GSP won regardless of the ey poke so .. no they don't
    Oh, are we still talikin' 'bout 'im?

    Let's get him a fight against Sting,
    the Undertaker, or the Big Show!!?
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